Split from all the Coticule threads:::

[pjrage]

I think you might have missed the point of the experiment, at least my point in doing it was to show that it is still the person using the stone, not any one stone that gets a razor to shave....

Using one stone and making it into a combo stone when there are no combo stones available makes perfect sense to me... I know I can still shave and if I were packing a go bag that would be a way to go....

Even if I were a minimalist and only wanted one stone my 1 stone would be a Norton 4/8 after this experiment.... Before this experiment I probably would have said a BBW/Yellow Coti but now I am pretty sure I can beat the edge off the Coti with the Norton 8k for shaving comfort.....

Now somebody with real minimalist ideas would most likely chose a two sided barber's hone, but guess what guys, somebody else can do that experiment

Me, I am back to taking the easy way to a sharper razor which includes many, many, stones

Great summary!

[JimR]

I think you might have missed the point of the experiment, at least my point in doing it was to show that it is still the person using the stone, not any one stone that gets a razor to shave....

Using one stone and making it into a combo stone when there are no combo stones available makes perfect sense to me... I know I can still shave and if I were packing a go bag that would be a way to go....

Even if I were a minimalist and only wanted one stone my 1 stone would be a Norton 4/8 after this experiment.... Before this experiment I probably would have said a BBW/Yellow Coti but now I am pretty sure I can beat the edge off the Coti with the Norton 8k for shaving comfort.....

Now somebody with real minimalist ideas would most likely chose a two sided barber's hone, but guess what guys, somebody else can do that experiment

Me, I am back to taking the easy way to a sharper razor which includes many, many, stones

Now this is what I call reasonable. Indeed, it's possible. it's not the only way, it's not even the best way, but it certainly isn't nonsense.

And now I really want to get a 6K or 8K hone and see how it works...

[hoglahoo]

Using one stone and making it into a combo stone when there are no combo stones available makes perfect sense to me...

This concept was foreign to me a month ago! And I have read quite a few posts in the forum, obviously not all but I am just saying Bart's method was new to me when I read it. Thanks for explaining and for doing the Norton experiment.

So how much faster is it to use a full set of hones on your average full hollow razor than it was for you to use just the 8k norton? Bart's honing portion of his video was only 3 or 4 minutes long - for someone like me who usually spends 15 minutes to 45 minutes just to hone one razor (back to the hone, back to the hone) it seems to indicate the same thing you mentioned, it is not so much the hone as it is the honer

[zib]

Glen, Been there, Done it, tried it. I went to the Norton 220k, breadknifed, the progressed to 1k, 4k, 8k, then some lapps on the Coticule, etc....I think the Coti may have worked, but it would have taken some time IMHO.....I think there are better stones for the job, IMO, it's a finisher..I had a razor the other day with some chips in the bevel, I have a bunch of different Coticules, I didn't even go there, I went for the Norton's. 220k, I thought about the DMT's to get the chips out, but the Norton made quick work of it, Used the above progression. Be careful with those buffers guys....But Glen, you feel you can get a smooter edge off a Norton 8k, than a Coticule. Are we talking, stopping right there and shaving, or going to something else after that?

[Lynn]

This is exactly why I did this with the Escher, Chinese 12K, Thuringen, Nakayama and Arkansas Translucent. I could every one to take a razor from dull to shaving sharp, but it was not consistent with regard to time or the number of strokes. Did work though, across the board. Interesting that even with the Norton 8K, you can do the same thing.

Thanks Glen!!

Lynn

[JimmyHAD]

As business agent and International organizer for local 272 HADicts I have to ask you to cease and desist from spreading this blasphemy . At least a dozen hones in progressive grits with glass bottoms and Japanese kanji on top are recommended for honing a razor. It is in the Wiki...... I can't find the link right now but as soon as I do I will post it.

[pjrage]

This is exactly why I did this with the Escher, Chinese 12K, Thuringen, Nakayama and Arkansas Translucent. I could every one to take a razor from dull to shaving sharp, but it was not consistent with regard to time or the number of strokes. Did work though, across the board. Interesting that even with the Norton 8K, you can do the same thing.

Thanks Glen!!

Lynn

Awesome, Lynn! In your opinion, of all the stones you tried it with, which would you grab if someone forced your hand to use this method again?

[JimmyHAD]

FWIW just before the latest one coticule honing thread appeared, I had used a Japanese natural for setting the bevel, honing and polishing, just for S&G and it worked.

Using a finishing hone to do all the grunt work or even an 8k, is also not very practical. Its much faster an economical to use the correct tools for the job. Using finishing stones, is basically for people with too much time on their hands.

Thanks for the effort and for posting Glen. Early on Randydance told me that you could set a bevel with a 4k Norton but a 1k would be faster. If the edge was in decent shape to begin with the 4k might be preferable as the 1k would leave deeper scratches to clean up with the 4k. So when the do it all with the coticule thread came up I was resistant to the idea because i have the 1k Norton, and the DMTE for the grunt work. So now we know that the whole operation can be performed with one 8k or higher finishing stone and that is great if that is all you have. I did it with a coticule/slurry once just to prove to myself that I could but in the future this home boy will be reaching for the DMT when it is bevel setting time. Many thanks to Lynn for clearing the land and building the runway in this straight razor shaving hobby.

[hi_bud_gl]

Dude!! One stone?? Are you crazy? Why would you do that? The whole world has gone mad

I am seriously thinking of starting a One Nakayama thread, with final results to be posted in 2087.

James.

when you got there would you please PM ME the result

[JimmyHAD]

when you got there would you please PM ME the result

We we be long gone by then Sham. We will know if there is a heaven or the hotter alternative. There are probably more rocks in hell though.