Split from all the Coticule threads:::

[gssixgun]

Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
Ok so let me see if I have this right??? I can use any stone I want, just so long as it is one stone, from bevel to polish, and then shave, damaged razors are not included??? and I get a slurry stone????

That is the quest???

The Answer:
I wouldn't call it a quest, but yeah, with the one coticule honing idea, it was that you could use the single stone, with a slurry stone, to achieve an acceptable shaving edge. I guess you could call it a challenge or a quest or even a parlor trick or what have you, but I think all it was ever meant to be was another tool in the honing toolbox, it's still up to the honer to decide which tool to use

Serious damage to razors (chips) don't count IMHO, and I don't think were ever meant to. Maybe you could hone out chips on the coticule with slurry, but IMO it's outside the realm of practicality.

[gssixgun]

OK just like I (and others) said in the other One Stone honing threads and the Coticule threads... It has nothing to do with the stone....here

I had to prove this to myself even though I knew it would work, I said any 8k stone would do this and I used a Norton 8k and 200 laps to prove it to myself tonight....

Starting with a Beau Brummel that had a tiny chip I breadknifed it out really fast, leaving a completely flat dull edge, hey I wanted a challenge...

I did a quick dressing of the Norton with a DGLP leaving the slurry on it then used a Norton Prep stone to mix up some even thicker slurry.... It took me about 100 laps to get an even bevel cut... I changed the layer of tape at that time re-dressed the stone and just used the 8k slurry to continue, at 60 laps I was popping arm hair I re-dressed the stone rinsed it totally clean and did 20 laps I rinsed the stone again and did 20 very, very light laps letting the stone go to almost dry... The bevel is a nice small and even, the edge is plenty sharp and hasn't even been stropped yet... I am going to strop 50/100 linen and leather in the morning and shave it but I can tell already it will shave fine....

I would be willing to bet that just about any stone around 8k can do the same thing..... Try it yerself and see...

[gary haywood]

Youre most likly right actauly

[DwarvenChef]

While this may seem like a worthwile quest to a minimalist... I'm going to pass and stick to my packrat ways and get all the stones I need to make it more entertaining for myself

Glen, you have WAY to much time on your hands

[Jimbo]

Dude!! One stone?? Are you crazy? Why would you do that? The whole world has gone mad!

In fact, I completely agree, and I thought there had been a general consensus in the past that with enough time you could do anything with any stone - if not in practice then at least in theory.

I am seriously thinking of starting a One Nakayama thread, with final results to be posted in 2087.

James.

[joke1176]

Dude!! One stone?? Are you crazy? Why would you do that? The whole world has gone mad!

In fact, I completely agree, and I thought there had been a general consensus in the past that with enough time you could do anything with any stone - if not in practice then at least in theory.

I am seriously thinking of starting a One Nakayama thread, with final results to be posted in 2087.

James.

Oh god, I may have to try this with my Nakayama.

If I do, I will post some results.

[Jimbo]

Oh god, I may have to try this with my Nakayama.

If I do, I will post some results.

Bravo!!

If you do it I will do it too. The next razor I sand the bevel off of. Let the (very, very, very slow) challenge commence!

James.

[pjrage]

Cool experiment Glen!

Now, what are your thoughts on the method? A complete joke? A parlor trick at best? A viable honing method?

I'm not asking if you're going to use this method every time you hone a razor now -- clearly you aren't.. Just curious if you think it's utterly ridiculous, or actually "not too bad."

Also, out of curiosity, in your opinion, would the shave be better off the norton 8k or off the coticule? That is, if you had to pick one or the other to be your only stone, which would it be?

And joke, please don't destroy your nakayama doing this !! But if you do, please do post the results

[JimR]

Cool experiment Glen!

Now, what are your thoughts on the method? A complete joke? A parlor trick at best? A viable honing method?

I'm not asking if you're going to use this method every time you hone a razor now -- clearly you aren't.. Just curious if you think it's utterly ridiculous, or actually "not too bad."

Also, out of curiosity, in your opinion, would the shave be better off the norton 8k or off the coticule? That is, if you had to pick one or the other to be your only stone, which would it be?

And joke, please don't destroy your nakayama doing this !! But if you do, please do post the results

So...taking a razor from a breadknife to something that he can already tell will be a fine shaving edge...

How is that not useful? To me, it sounds like a very VERY helpful thing. What's wrong with it?

[gssixgun]

I think you might have missed the point of the experiment, at least my point in doing it was to show that it is still the person using the stone, not any one stone that gets a razor to shave....

Using one stone and making it into a combo stone when there are no combo stones available makes perfect sense to me... I know I can still shave and if I were packing a go bag that would be a way to go....

Even if I were a minimalist and only wanted one stone my 1 stone would be a Norton 4/8 after this experiment.... Before this experiment I probably would have said a BBW/Yellow Coti but now I am pretty sure I can beat the edge off the Coti with the Norton 8k for shaving comfort.....

Now somebody with real minimalist ideas would most likely chose a two sided barber's hone, but guess what guys, somebody else can do that experiment

Me, I am back to taking the easy way to a sharper razor which includes many, many, stones