Thread: HAD PEOPLE LET'S resolve this challenge?

Originally Posted by randydance062449

Sham, I just saw this thread. Beautiful stone!

Can you scratch it with a nail?

Another fine find from you Randy ?
In my short time here i've never seen such a chunk of rock like that ever ..
Now , Sham I can try if I bring some razors , correct ?
Could you send me the plane tickets over and I'll be there as soon as I can :-)

Thanks for making the HAD folk here ( no not me of course !!!! ) envious yet again ..


kind regards Garry

Originally Posted by randydance062449

Sham, I just saw this thread. Beautiful stone!

Can you scratch it with a nail?

I read this a little late.
Randy this stone is very hard stone. nail will not scratch it. dmt 150 will scratch but 600 wont. i will clean it up and put up new pictures.

Originally Posted by Garry

Another fine find from you Randy ?
In my short time here i've never seen such a chunk of rock like that ever ..
Now , Sham I can try if I bring some razors , correct ?
Could you send me the plane tickets over and I'll be there as soon as I can :-)

Thanks for making the HAD folk here ( no not me of course !!!! ) envious yet again ..


kind regards Garry

Sham is one of the many 'Gems,' on this sight...like his many hones. Thanks Sham for your contributions to us all!

Mac

Much has been edited out of this post by our mods but Bud, what do you think of this stone? Similar?

Originally Posted by ChayesFSS

Much has been edited out of this post by our mods but Bud, what do you think of this stone? Similar?

To be clear, a single post consisting of 9 discrete words (10 total) was removed because it was in violation of our rules.

A clear explanation was given for this via PM. Any objection to what the mods have decided upon should be brought up in a gentlemanly manner. It seems to me (and I hope I am mistaken) that this is a snarky comment made because you disagree with how the situation was handled. Please feel free to clarify this by pm to me or any mod.

-Rob

Here is a bit of info that I got from a gentleman that is familar with the arkansas novaculite stones . He sells what he terms as mountain man hones. Here is what he had to say about this hone (I passed the link to this thread for him to look at)

It looks similar. Actually, some of the stone I see at the quarry looks just like that, and with heating it will bring out the yellow more. The stone is Arkansas Novaculite. There are many different colors and composition of these stones, and this just happens to be a yellow variant. Mine are striped yellow, red, and gray, although, there are others that are solid black, white, pink, blue, yellow, and even peach colored. Arkansas Novaculite is as different in color as any stone comes. It all depends on where you quarry it as to what color it will be. I have even seen some quarries that have a lot of the different colors, but all act the same when honing. The key to a good Novaculite stone is the initial heat treating of it. As there are difference in colors ... there are also the types that act differently to different temperatures. I heat all of my 'rainbow' novaculite stones up to 850 degrees in a pottery kiln for up to 8 hours. Some blacks, yellow, and white solids only take 650 degrees for 6 hours to meet the same criteria. The microscopic cracks he sees in the stone are from heat treating. The heating process causes a chain reaction in the silica molecules and causes them to either fuse together or pull apart. This is what brings out the fine honing ability of these stones. The slurry color may either be a milky silica concentration or just from use of the stone.

so for what it is worth, there is another opinion.

Originally Posted by scrapcan

Here is a bit of info that I got from a gentleman that is familar with the arkansas novaculite stones . He sells what he terms as mountain man hones. Here is what he had to say about this hone (I passed the link to this thread for him to look at)

It looks similar. Actually, some of the stone I see at the quarry looks just like that, and with heating it will bring out the yellow more. The stone is Arkansas Novaculite. There are many different colors and composition of these stones, and this just happens to be a yellow variant. Mine are striped yellow, red, and gray, although, there are others that are solid black, white, pink, blue, yellow, and even peach colored. Arkansas Novaculite is as different in color as any stone comes. It all depends on where you quarry it as to what color it will be. I have even seen some quarries that have a lot of the different colors, but all act the same when honing. The key to a good Novaculite stone is the initial heat treating of it. As there are difference in colors ... there are also the types that act differently to different temperatures. I heat all of my 'rainbow' novaculite stones up to 850 degrees in a pottery kiln for up to 8 hours. Some blacks, yellow, and white solids only take 650 degrees for 6 hours to meet the same criteria. The microscopic cracks he sees in the stone are from heat treating. The heating process causes a chain reaction in the silica molecules and causes them to either fuse together or pull apart. This is what brings out the fine honing ability of these stones. The slurry color may either be a milky silica concentration or just from use of the stone.

so for what it is worth, there is another opinion.

They HEAT TREAT stones too? Hells bells, that never even occurred to me.

Originally Posted by joke1176

They HEAT TREAT stones too? Hells bells, that never even occurred to me.

I wonder what they do if not heat treated?

Oh yeah, for sure. Over here in Aus, there is a famous stone - the croc stone. Under ordinary circumstances, a croc stone is just another stone. But, sit it in a crocodile nest and let the croc incubate it at a certain temperature, you get a stone that is capable of honing a Chronik in 3 laps.



James.

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Oh yeah, for sure. Over here in Aus, there is a famous stone - the croc stone. Under ordinary circumstances, a croc stone is just another stone. But, sit it in a crocodile nest and let the croc incubate it at a certain temperature, you get a stone that is capable of honing a Chronik in 3 laps.



James.

You're silly.