I would love to join in but my naniwas are on the way to Missouri. I sent them to a friend who doesn't have them to try them. They are scheduled for delivery on Tuesday so maybe he will jump in to the fray. When I had them I would set a bevel on the 1k, pyramid on the 3/5k, finish on the 8k and if I wanted to ...... and I usually did, go on to the 12k.