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12-23-2010, 04:59 PM #2
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As Glen said, this was actually pretty funny that we were experimenting on similar lines.
So, with all the Coticule hype, and cot method discussion lately, I had already found out that you could pretty much do these methods with any natural stone and come away with OK results. It worked on razors in decent condition and razors that had bevels properly established. If it didn't hit right away, you could tinker some and these methods will work. The question to me was that because I could use the circle method on the synthetic stones and come away with excellent results almost 10 out of 10 times first time through the process, could I use the circle method on the natural stones just varying the slurry thickness and what would the results be.
So.........I took my Escher stone, largest Coticule, Asagi, Kiita and Ohzuku and decided to have some fun. I took some pics of the stones that you will see below.
I used 20 brand new razors and 10 used/vintage razors on each stone. With the used or vintage razors, I set the bevels on a 1K Naniwa Chosera before going to the naturals. I used a generic nagura stone from JapanWoodworker for slurry on all stones. Its' the white looking stone in the pics below.
The method was pretty straight forward. I used the circle method as seen on the video from the NC Gathering and applied it to the natural stones only I varied the amount of slurry on each. YouTube - Straight Razor Place '09 Convention. Lynn Honing #1
The method:
I did 40 circles both clockwise and counter clockwise with a sludge like thick slurry followed by 10 X strokes. Firm pressure was used with the thick slurry on both the circles and X strokes.
I then did 40 circles again both clockwise and counter clockwise with a thinner, but still milk like slurry. On this set of circles I also used firm pressure. I followed these circles with 40 more circles in both directions only this time I only used the weight of the razor and then after the second set of circles did 10 X strokes with minimal pressure.
Next, I watered down the slurry to a light consistency and did 10 X strokes with minimal to no pressure followed by 10 X strokes on just water, again with virtually no pressure.
At this point I started shave testing the razors and the results were OK, but personally, I like the results with .5 diamond spray on felt better, so I started adding 10 no pressure strokes using the spray as a finish before going to the strop. Stropping was the usual 50-60 strokes on my Premium I.
I pretty much used the TPT going through the honing, but the razors were shaving forearm hair after the thick slurry and popping hairs after the medium slurry routines.
I think what was very cool here is that around 7 out of 10 razors hit first time around using this process. On the ones that didn't hit first time, I went back to either the light slurry or to the medium slurry based on how the razor shave tested and with a little tinkering, I could get the razor to shave ready.
From a results stand point and this is purely personal, I like the edges off the Escher, Asagi and Ohzuku the best, but the Kiita and Coticule were decent.
Next, I am going to get some additional nagura stones and play around some more. The point for me in all this is that there are a ton of can do ways to hone which makes this so much fun and most of the stones out there will work for you. It really boils down to personal preference and you experimenting to find out what works the best for you.
You guys know I am technologically challenged, but I will try to get some pics of the the 3 levels of slurry I was using.
Give these methods a try and see how they work for you. As you can tell Glen and I do things a little different, but there is definite similarity to the processes.
Have fun,
Lynn
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