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    Your experiment reminds me of some that were done with the Spyderco hones using various slurries. I used a natural nagura and some garnet. In both cases the hone functioned as a substrate to hold the slurry abrasive. Robert Williams did the same with diamond paste/powder. I would suspect that any number of different rocks/hones would function the same way as long as they are relatively hard. Essentially what is being done is to use various materials as a substrate to hold an abrasive. Historically leather, linen/canvas/felt, wood and now stone have been used. The manmade hones and materials are next.

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    Kingfish how does the edge compare to the translucent without slurry?? i was thinking of using soft or hard to create slurry on a surgical black now i'm thinking that would just be like using the donor by itself,like using the hard to form slurry on the black would just be like using the hard by itself if it will create slurry,do you think a translucent would create slurry on a translucent?? another thing i was thinking of was using a matching slurry stone like soft on soft hard on hard etc,haven't found my broken peice of soft to try on my soft yet but do you think something like that will work??

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    i went back and read your OP. At first time i didn't read and thought you are trying to make slurry on Ark and use it.
    In fact what you have tried is using Arkansas and different slurry stones.
    in your case it is escher and Japanese stone.
    The idea is same as One stone sharpening i have posted long time ago or recently i am not Sure Lynn or Glenn posted.
    what are you doing is using arkansas as a flat surface(not 100% but similar to it)
    Now arkansas stones are novoculate and when you do use them blade cuts the stone.
    Lets say molecules(just call this way for simplicity) join together.
    when your blade moves it doesn't move whole molecule from each other but it cuts some portion of it.
    lets say you have 1mm(example) size molecule as a slurry now.
    after this that 1mm molecule will never change the size. it will stay in there and even doesn't have any sharpening quality.
    In the other hand your slurries Japanese slurry will get smaller and smaller by using it more.

    By using your arkansas stone and Japanese stone you will have finer edge compare to Arkansas stone alone edge
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    you will have worse edge compare to Japanese stone edge.
    (lets say you do have japanese sharpening stone)
    if you do have just Japanese stone slurry only then your method is good to go.
    hope i was clear enough.
    this is the video which i posted long time ago. Basically i used different girt slurries and made blade shave ready from scratch.
    YouTube - ONE stone sharpening1

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    Quote Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl View Post
    By using your arkansas stone and Japanese stone you will have finer edge compare to Arkansas stone alone edge
    But
    you will have worse edge compare to Japanese stone edge.
    (lets say you do have japanese sharpening stone)
    if you do have just Japanese stone slurry only then your method is good to go.
    hope i was clear enough.
    this is the video which i posted long time ago. Basically i used different girt slurries and made blade shave ready from scratch.
    YouTube - ONE stone sharpening1
    I did remember that video Sham, that is maybe how I got the idea to try it with Arkie. Arkies cut so slow, the swarf is almost 100% donor stone. Some people have small Koppa of Jnats and not a large hard Jnat, so I tried it with Arkie to see.
    I had very good results, so I pass it on for others who want to try.

    By the time it take Translucent to do much of anything the slurry has already cut and broken down and all you see is very fine swarf. 40 us dollars for translucent from Dan's quarry translucent stone from internet provider 8 inch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard73 View Post
    Kingfish how does the edge compare to the translucent without slurry?? i was thinking of using soft or hard to create slurry on a surgical black now i'm thinking that would just be like using the donor by itself,like using the hard to form slurry on the black would just be like using the hard by itself if it will create slurry,do you think a translucent would create slurry on a translucent?? another thing i was thinking of was using a matching slurry stone like soft on soft hard on hard etc,haven't found my broken peice of soft to try on my soft yet but do you think something like that will work??
    Edges feel and look similar to slurries placed on them. Very little of Arkie IMHO.
    I think if you try to generate a slury by rubbing tans-trans we will see a mushroom cloud over your house from friction required!!!!!!!!!!!All kidding aside, Trans is to brittle to mess with against itself and if you try a corner you will see little conchoidal fractures result. I did not like slurry results made from diamond nagura,but it did cut faster than plain arkie but not as fast as Jnat.
    Last edited by Kingfish; 02-02-2011 at 01:21 AM.

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