Thanks gentlemen for all the tips. I have a Nakayama Asagi lv 5+ from JNS that was giving me headaches. I lapped it with a 120 dmt as this gives room for the particles and finished on trickle of running water. Under the scope the scratch patterns on what I was doing before and now is that the scratches are shallower. I just shaved with it. You guys are geniuses! Thanks again for sharing the knowledge.