Thread: Global shi**ing strikes again.

So with 1st class International what happens if the item never arrives? There is no insurance available.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

So with 1st class International what happens if the item never arrives? There is no insurance available.

Depending on the value of the item it may be more money for the insurance than the item. On higher priced items you can upgrade to priority or express mail and they are insurable, and you still don't have to pay the ridiculous import charges that pitney is charging. If the items are marked as vintage there is no duty, it is just money that Pitney is charging, it is not paid to Canadian Border Services. I think the issue is the Pitney charges. Not the postage costs.

Originally Posted by RezDog

I don't know why that someone thinks that this is such a great plan between Canada and the US. You think Pitney has stupid charges you should try having something shipped from the US by UPS. They charge 50% of the value of the item for brokerage fees. UPS makes more off the good than the sellers do. It is a ridiculous system for sure. I often don't bid on item that have the global ship. It costs a little more for the shipping but then there is the made up import charge that get under my skin, but it also takes longer, and travels by post anyway. I've had my mini rant. Deep relaxing breaths now

Been there done that the hard way when a package arrived via the UPS folks. Won't do it again.

IIRC, anything under $200.00 from the States into Canada you do not pay duty...I let one seller know about the costs, he had no idea, did a screen capture and sent it to him, he felt that was why suddenly his bidding activity had gone way down. When I've mentioned this to other sellers, some say that's the way and they're fine with that, and then I say so long...it's my choice to not contribute to this.

"it's my choice to not contribute to this." << This is what controls everything. If you don't play that game it goes away.

Originally Posted by 10Pups

"it's my choice to not contribute to this." << This is what controls everything. If you don't play that game it goes away.

Absolutely. We are just having a gripe fest all the same.

That's my way of not taking over the thread with foul language and tossing in conspiracy theories and ............"deep breath" as you say :<0)

Originally Posted by 10Pups

That's my way of not taking over the thread with foul language and tossing in conspiracy theories and ............"deep breath" as you say :<0)

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Nothing to see here citizen, move along....

Living in Upstate New York State this issue of boarders crossings and customs between the two countries made like or no rational sense. Most of the boarder is woodland or water so if someone is going to do something illegal why would they do it on a bridge going from Niagara Falls Canada to Niagara Falls US when they can just cross 20miles east or west with no one seeing them.
Been told it's the same with the mail. If an item is sent by airmail it just flys over and is delivered. If it goes by land/truck it's held at the boarder.
Time to forgive each other for the War of 1812 and have open boarders!!

Originally Posted by Johnus

Living in Upstate New York State this issue of boarders crossings and customs between the two countries made like or no rational sense. Most of the boarder is woodland or water so if someone is going to do something illegal why would they do it on a bridge going from Niagara Falls Canada to Niagara Falls US when they can just cross 20miles east or west with no one seeing them.
Been told it's the same with the mail. If an item is sent by airmail it just flys over and is delivered. If it goes by land/truck it's held at the boarder.


Time to forgive each other for the War of 1812 and have open boarders!!

Like crossing most borders it is not difficult with the right documents and if you don't get smart with the border staff. Wait times are something else again at times.

The points in between land crossing are not so wide open as most would think. There is regular aerial surveillance by aircraft and the same type of drones used against terrorists in other parts of the world and fixed sensors on the ground. That is the US side and does not include the magnificent job our own Sargent Preston of the RCMP does on his dog sled patrols along the border. He keeps them huskies hungry for a reason.

Borders are like fences, they make good neighbours.

Bob

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

So with 1st class International what happens if the item never arrives? There is no insurance available.

Or if the 'tracking' number which is really the customs declaration number and not officially recognized as tracking by USPS, doesn't show any activity.

If the buyer is reasonable they recognize that since they benefit from the cheap means the risk is on them when things go bad and they eat the loss. If they buyer is not reasonable they think that the seller should be assuming all risk while they reap the benefits, and so they open ebay/paypal dispute and get their money back, the seller eats the loss. The seller has learned a valuable lesson and in the future runs things the way they have to be run - i.e. higher risk and savings go together to the same party and since ebay doesn't allow the buyer to assume the risk then the seller doesn't offer cheaper and riskier shipping options either.