I thought this razor was a pretty good deal. Then began the honing.....I like bevels that you are barely able to see.....I have no idea how to get there from here. I had been using 3 layers of tape on a 600 Chosera then dropped to 2 layers on a 1K when I thought I was closer, but the razor looks like it was honed by multiple people each group taking a side......seller asked $45.00 for it, I asked if the price was firm...he said how about $38.00. I was pretty happy then, now I am deep in frustration and agitation. I completely understand the zombie mode and add that there are other land mines to step on in this game.