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09-09-2014, 03:35 PM #1
Ebay selling dangers - blade width
Hey all, figured I'd post a warning based on my recent experiences. I had measured a blade with a ruler to be an inch, and listed it as 8/8. After shipping, I got a terse email informing me that the razor was not indeed a full inch, and they were complaining about a very small fraction. I offered a refund, it was accepted, I took the razor back and measured it when I got it (not to mention the chain of emails in between which I would have to describe as 'rude' if choosing a word for it).
With my calipers it was 0.980", which is very nearly 63/64...
I can understand if it was listed as 8/8 and measured 7/8 or even 15/16, but where do you draw the line? I think I was being generous even offering a refund, as 64ths of inches are almost getting into the territory of where you need to use Significant figures - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia in the razor world. I want to check my sanity here with what SRP thinks.
So moral of the story: apparently there are nitpickers out there who get rather upset when the razor you thought was an inch is short by very small amounts, and then basically suggest you are a liar. I will no longer state size in any certain terms and will instead provide pictures with rulers so buyers can make their own judgments, and suggest anyone who sells does the same.
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09-09-2014, 03:41 PM #2
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Thanked: 146I can see you are upset. But if you bought a gallon of gas and didn't get a whole gallon, it might bother you, I know it would bug me. If I got over a gallon, I don't think anyone would hear a whisper.
I am just saying that seeing the prices the razors an inch or over are commanding, I would be irate if I paid a bundle and didn't get the full measure. YMMV.Luck is a matter of preparation meeting opportunity. ~Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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09-09-2014, 03:54 PM #3
When it comes to razors I try to be absolutely specific. Especially when we get into the 8/8 territory. People who are fixated on meat choppers want 1" + if they can get it. Anything less is not quite as "cool."
I just had to fight a guy to get a refund on a book. Ebay's qualifications for "very good" are 'no highlighting, underlining, margin notes" or any other writing in the text block. I get the book and it has all of the above, in ink and the highlighting in two colors. I abhor highlighting BTW. The guy has specified no returns but I send a message anyway.
AFAIC I should get shipping refunded both ways. Even at that the hassle of repacking, going to the PO is not refundable. This guy said he would refund but when tracking showed it delivered, and a few days went by, I opened a dispute, escalated to a claim, and got my $ back, less return shipping. So it cost me time, aggravation and $4.00 because this person is either inept, careless, or dishonest. Just posting the other side of the coin as to ebay returns.Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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09-09-2014, 04:05 PM #4
Is it possible that the buyer measured differently?
I think that I recall reading that while most (?) people measure blade width spanning from spine to edge, others measure from the bottom of the hone line to the edge. Depending on the blade design, that could amount to substantially different measurements.
Then again, the buyer may have simply wanted to back out the sale, and found a convenient excuse to screw you.When you are dead, you don't know that you are dead. It's difficult only for the others.
It's the same when you are stupid.
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09-09-2014, 04:22 PM #5
Before I had an 8/8 blade, and wanted one badly, I would have been miffed if the razor was a hair under an inch ...... red hair, blond hair ........ wouldn't matter ........ if it wasn't an inch I was right back where I had been ....... without an 8/8 blade.
Look at George Brittain razors ..... the 8/8 blades don't really sell for the big $, it is the 10/8 blades that draw the big $. A "silly millimeter" longer can make all the difference in the world to some people. IMHO.Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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09-09-2014, 04:22 PM #6
it's called buyer's remorse. He got it and didn't like it and started looking for something to complain about so he could return it and not eat the shipping blaming you for "not as described".
No matter how many men you kill you can't kill your successor-Emperor Nero
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09-09-2014, 07:31 PM #7
What he said. eBay experiences can be so totally wrong that I have pretty much quit selling on there, even with hundreds of transactions and a 100% satisfaction rating. It just isn't worth the hassle. Best one I have heard in a while was a guy who, representing himself as an experienced straight razor user, bought a Wade & Butcher but wanted a refund because "it was old..."
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09-10-2014, 12:48 AM #8
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09-09-2014, 04:38 PM #9
That is one of the reasons I stopped selling on eBay a long time ago. When you sell a razor and throw in a used vintage brush as a bonus (for free) and the person complains about a few hairs falling out of the brush then leaves Negative Feedback..........
"If You Knew Half of What I Forgot You Would Be An Idiot" - by DoughBoy68
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09-09-2014, 06:04 PM #10