Thread: Leave negative feedback?

Of special interest in the case a seller cancels the deal:

If you cancel a transaction, the buyer can still leave you negative or neutral Feedback about the transaction.

Edit:
Too slooooow

Tough crowd in this thread so the OP lost a $17 item,did not cost him a dime.
Let it rest,Negativty breeds more Negativty,leave no feedback,JMO

Originally Posted by prodigy

True I suppose, I just won two coticules for 30$ BIN and thought that this would happen again. I think the seller wished he listed it for more, but he stayed true to the auction. To those that say it's not worth complaining about, it's not about the money. It's the principle. If it was an accident they shouldn't instantly refund the money without at least contacting the buyer first. My guy could have avoided a negative feedback had he simply explained the situation and asked. However he refunded and told me that was what was going to happen. Just my opinions of course.

To err is human, to forgive divine. I've left 1,894 feedbacks on the bay since 1999, and IIRC no more than 3 were negatives, and they were egregious circumstances of misrepresentation, with no willingness to make it right.

In this case the seller has had a death in the family, is unfamiliar with the item, and was made aware by the widowed mother that it went too low. I'd give them a pass under the circumstances, but we all have to make our own decisions.

I missed the part about death in the family, but I'd still leave negative feedback. Something negative occurred. Not as bad as the seller came to your house and stole all of your money and burned your house and kicked your dog, but they still signed up for something that is a contract between two parties and backed out for a reason that they are not generally allowed to back out on.

That's good enough for me to both report them and leave negative feedback "seller refuses to ship unless auction price is higher"

Ebay won't take it off unless the seller can prove it's false or they shipped.

And that's as it should be. Failure to leave negative feedback when people violate the rules just encourages them to continue to do it.

Call me a skeptic, but there are a lot of people on the internet selling things, and then when they back out or want more, come up with a fish story about how it's not really their fault. I had a guy take my money via paypal years ago and he had more fish stories than there are fish. I thought they were true at first because he seemed sincere until one excuse directly contradicted another. When I pointed it out, he got nasty. I contacted paypal and sent them the communications stream and they refunded my money. Then he followed me around on a forum that he sold a lot of exotic wood on and eventually got himself banned there. When people have a pity party excuse, I figure there's at least a 50/50 chance that it's something they're hiding behind. Is that a negative way to live life? Yes, I guess.

I've only ever actually had to leave someone negative feedback one time on ebay, though, because they sold me something they knew was broken and refused to refund any money until I filed a claim. That one also came with a lot of fish stories, including a claim that the seller hadn't been on ebay in 10 days and didn't see my request (he somehow managed to sell and ship several items in those 10 days, though).

Once you explained the circumstances the buyer explained to you (which seems to have disappeared from what I can see), my thoughts as far as negative feedback have changed. We are talking about a razor here, this person is dealing with the death of their father and selling the items for his mother. Its a razor. There will be hundreds more. Let it slide. Circumstance means everything.

Lets look at the converse, too. As the seller, if I were selling something for my mother, and she said she wanted more, first thing I'd say (because we're on terms of clear communication) is "we need to have a reserve if you need a certain amount for it". And second from that, I'd gladly take negative feedback if my dad died and my mother wanted it. But I probably would never have given those circumstances to the buyer verbally because it's just an excuse.

That's a harsh take, maybe, but ebay isn't a human relations site. It's an auction site with clearly defined terms.

Originally Posted by DaveW

ebay isn't a human relations site. It's an auction site with clearly defined terms.

The particular situation of the OP aside, ebay is full of baloney. Policy wise I mean. A seller can only leave positive feedback, no more negative or neutrals. Not a fair playing field.

The worst part is that while ebay says "Your bid is a contract", buyers can back out of the deal with impunity, and so can sellers. Happens every day and ebay doesn't do diddley squat to either one nor the other.

They are in it for the fees which used to be a 3% final value on most things, and is now 10% + the paypal fees.

We know the game is crooked, but it is the only viable game in town. End of rant.

100% right, the rules have been set to be whatever generates the most money. When it was a pure auction site with low fees, it was great. You could sell stuff, and you could find deals. Unimprovements that have occurred:
* shifting fees from listing to final value (just encourages asking stupid prices for things and not caring if they sell)
* taking away negative feedback from sellers
* tripling or quintupling fees (depending on what you see as the original fees, I think at one time they may have been about 1 or 2%, not sure)

They know that if a seller is allowed to hang negative feedback on a buyer, then the buyer may be blocked from running a bid up on a subsequent item.

They also know that if they side with the buyer by default unless there is overwhelming evidence otherwise, that the buyers will be back as long as they can cheat, and the sellers will eat it. It's an implicit fee.

I wish someone else could start a site and get it set up like ebay of 1997. Etsy might be the next best thing, but it too is full of people who think they'll ask $200 for something worth $50 and see if they can find a mark.

You are clearly unhappy with the transaction so negative feedback would be honest and accurate. I won an auction a few years ago and got a note from the seller saying " I'm not going to sell it for this price". Left them negative feedback. I have also sold things on ebay for far less then what they were worth. I sent the items to the buyers and left them good feedback. That's how the game is played.

Fact is if you are on E Bay, Its a swap meet,junk pile swindlers married to a band of gypsies.
And that is on a good day. Few and far between honest people having a modern day Garage sale.
Call it what it is.
E Bay is a hustlers paradise and the epitome of misrepresentation and shoddy pictures. Jerry Springer meets Howard Stern and Barnum T. Bailey.
Keep your eyes open and keep your money hidden in your front pocket.
If it looks questionable it usually is.
For every "Oh look what I got on Ebay story, I have 20 I got suckered that I never speak about".
Short version "nothing surprises me anymore" I got a package of junk womens nylons and clothes from China from Ebay. I never bid. never was billed. junk just showed up at the door.