Joamo, you Brother get the Gold star, I think you nailed it, THANKS.

Sebastian, I did chat with the Gent, he is "Keeping trade secrets" which is Cool, the re-naming so as to sound German whetstone is OUT there a little ways but what can ya do.

I have access to some picture Jasper and had a suspicion,, though the colors are Brown,Tan, Black and some greens.

Hacker7, did you bid to get the stones? or private sale? Thanks.