Thread: Vintage Coti?

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VINTAGE BELGIAN COTICULE RAZOR HONE - eBay (item 270524282123 end time Feb-07-10 15:25:38 PST)=

Someone paid 164.00 dollars for a 4x2.5 The seller say's his Dad was a barber from the 30's to the 90's. Given the fact that all coti's are 500 million years old, and I have some from a mine that was shut in the 60's and just re opened, I could sell them as "vintage" All I'm saying is to the new guys, Please educate yourselves.

You could have purchased a 6x2 natural combo for less money...from any number of vendors. This is too much money for a 4x2, and imo does not look vintage to me....Please be careful, and ask the senior members here for help, or any vendor that sells Coticules. Any will give you an honest opinion.....

It's hard to tell from the pics, but it may be a natural combo stone. I can't tell.

Originally Posted by zib

Check this out:
VINTAGE BELGIAN COTICULE RAZOR HONE - eBay (item 270524282123 end time Feb-07-10 15:25:38 PST)=

Any will give you an honest opinion.....

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Sorry Zib i should disagree with you on this.
coticules are different in quality some of them worth more some less. May be the high bidder knows more then we do.GL

Agreed Sham, but you can't tell by pics alone, believe me, I've sold these for some time and handled many. You really have to test the stone, and from what I see, this doesn't appear to be Vintage, but as I said, I may be wrong....165.00 for a 4x2 is high....
I haven't looked, but I suspect it was a simple bidding war.....

and Please, Call me Rich, my nickname is Zib, with a B, not zip.....Thanks...

This one seems a little overpriced as well, RARE BARBER BELGIAN STRAIGHT RAZOR COMBINATION HONE 60s - eBay (item 120528661150 end time Mar-10-10 18:02:38 PST). The BIN price is $430.00 for a 5 x 2.5 x 1" natural combination coticule.

Originally Posted by Piet

This one seems a little overpriced as well, RARE BARBER BELGIAN STRAIGHT RAZOR COMBINATION HONE 60s - eBay (item 120528661150 end time Mar-10-10 18:02:38 PST). The BIN price is $430.00 for a 5 x 2.5 x 1" natural combination coticule.

Big time. for that much, I'd buy a Nakayama. It's funny, cause he say's it's from the 60's. I know Rob just reopened a mine from the 60's. That is a lot of money for that stone..

Rich i did already pm to you and typing has been fixed. Sorry i didn't mean to offend You.
sham

None Taken Sham, Most of the guys call me Rich, By all means, Please call me Rich.
Whoever bought that 4x2 has over 1300 Ebay transactions, not a novice. Maybe it is a special stone, It certainly doesn't look it to me, but as I said, I could be wrong. I would never pay 165.00 for a 4x2 Coticule unless is was some kind of miracle cutter.

my own thoughts are that someone has more money than sense. which is the case a lot of the time on ebay. i have been looking around for a coticule for some time and was watching that one. too rich for my blood and billfold. i have seen nicer cots for less money IMO. you also have to take into consideration that those pics on ebay do NOT always show very good detail and i would want to know the person or his reputation pretty well before i plopped down that kind of cash for such a small coticule..

Hmmm, that is a lot of $ for what it was. My best coticule out of over a dozen is one recently harvested ( 2 years ago) from Ardennes Coticule and imported by The Perfect Edge. An 8x3 combo. I don't know what layer it came from but here are a couple of shots. Beats the pants off any other coticule I have honed on be they vintage or recent and that is over a dozen.

I admit I've paid much more money for similar stones. Value is sometimes just a matter of what at least one person will pay. Generally, I pay more for unusual sizes, thicknesses, and coloring, and also to prevent a stone from being offered up to somebody else who wouldn't pay as much. And I'll always try to pay a premium or full list price to a trusted seller, especially one who has sold me quality before. But eBay isn't a trusted seller to me.

To explain, here's why I would have gladly paid that for that stone (it wasn't me, but I would have). First, it's a natural combo, which I prefer just for looks, feel, and relative rarity. Second, I believe it's vintage, because they don't cut them this size and thickness anymore (that I've seen, anyway). I don't think vintage coticules are any better, but I like the non-standard sizes and big thicknesses they come in, like this one. Third, the 5" X 2.5" X 1" is my favorite size for coticules, perfect for hand-held honing. Fourth, I love the unusual layer of coticule mixed in with the blue. I have a natural in almost this size, with very similar layering/coloring. The coticule layer is kosher, and it's listed in the Wiki Hone DB. It was no bargain, but I love it. It puts no better edge on a razor than other coticules, but it does have a very particular feel when honing that I really like.

None of these things make the hone listed any better as a hone, they are only to try to explain why I'd pay that myself, not to justify it for others to pay.

The other coticule with the $430 BIN wouldn't be worth it to me. Similar size to the first, wonderful and unusual layering/coloring, but not worth anything close to $430 - to me personally. I wouldn't think someone was crazy for paying the BIN, but I think they could do better. If it doesn't sell and comes down substantially, I'll definitely be bidding on it, just for the size and color.