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    Quote Originally Posted by Undream View Post
    I don't think anyone was saying its an escher, I was merely pointing out that the same exact phrases appear on eschers, therefore it is likely a similar quality stone, possibly mined and sold to a different company who distributed them.

    Oldengaerde was further showing that it likely was not an escher based on the fact that the picture does not match known escher logos.
    Thanks Brad, I do appreciate that is the case.

    Clearly it is not an Escher, otherwise it would have said so on the label instead of 'Made In Germany' so a comparison of Escher marks is not necessary. It probably is a slate from a similar or even the exact same strata that Escher & Co cut theirs from - geological strata/deposits/layers do tend to be quite huge, after all! The name of the company that quarried it, cut it up and marketed it doesn't really matter IMO - how the product hones is, though.

    The way I read Sham's query was as to whether the label was original as it is in such good condition. It does appear to be in excellent condition. I agree with ChrisL that you would have to examine the actual label to see if it is a modern reproduction - you don't have to be an Escher expert to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Miller View Post
    The way I read Sham's query was as to whether the label was original as it is in such good condition. It does appear to be in excellent condition. I agree with ChrisL that you would have to examine the actual label to see if it is a modern reproduction - you don't have to be an Escher expert to do that.

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    what i said is The label was the first one i have seen in such condition and print form. words are exactly same but picture in the middle different.
    Now i don't know how someone can examine the label without owning the stone?
    in fact i do think that label is strange one. doesn't look like factory made. Seems like someone just made that label by using some computer software or something else.
    quality etc no one knows until put the blade on it and test it.
    hope this clears up some confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl View Post
    i do think that label is strange one. doesn't look like factory made. Seems like someone just made that label by using some computer software or something else.
    quality etc no one knows until put the blade on it and test it.
    hope this clears up some confusion.
    Taking another look at the label I'm wondering if it isn't a recently harvested and marketed stone ? Aside from the fact that none of us have ever seen this particular label on a Thuringan it looks almost new. The color is very bright and there is little or no wear apparent to me. The idea of a photo shopped and computer generated label occurred to me too but if they were to go to that extent why not copy a known Escher label ? The stone itself definitely looks like a Thuringan for whatever that is worth. If someone who speaks the language were to post a photo of the stone/label on the German razor forums perhaps someone on that forum could shed some light on the mystery ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl View Post
    Neil
    what i said is The label was the first one i have seen in such condition and print form. words are exactly same but picture in the middle different.
    Now i don't know how someone can examine the label without owning the stone?
    in fact i do think that label is strange one. doesn't look like factory made. Seems like someone just made that label by using some computer software or something else.
    quality etc no one knows until put the blade on it and test it.
    hope this clears up some confusion.
    That's what I thought you were asking! You'll never know unless you (or someone here) gets it and examines the lbael closely, sadly.

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    ok, i'll save you, i'll pick it up, so don't anybody bid against me, ok
    then i'll give you any detail you want on the label and the stone

    glad to sacrifice myself for the common good, you can buy me few drinks to thank me

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post
    ok, i'll save you, i'll pick it up, so don't anybody bid against me, ok
    then i'll give you any detail you want on the label and the stone

    glad to sacrifice myself for the common good, you can buy me few drinks to thank me
    Thank you for that act of selfless generosity gugi. I don't care what anyone here says; you are a heck of a guy.

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    For posterity, it went for about double the starting bid of 49 USD with four bidders and this is the stone and label:

    Name:  100530 The Celebrated Water Razor Hone - odd blue label - eBay Bacchus7-2007 1.JPG
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    Name:  100530 The Celebrated Water Razor Hone - odd blue label - eBay Bacchus7-2007 3.JPG
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    Name:  100530 The Celebrated Water Razor Hone - odd blue label - eBay Bacchus7-2007 4.JPG
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    Edit: note to those who read what I had written here about another hone: I was wrong! Further discussion here.
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    I asked for extra pics when the hone is dry , here they are:




    I also took the plunge on it and we will see what it is when it arrives all the way from Greece.
    Last edited by mainaman; 05-31-2010 at 11:30 PM.
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    I am glad one of srp member get it. this will end up our doubts. Please
    Stefan do inform us how stone will perform

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    Quote Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl View Post
    I am glad one of srp member get it. this will end up our doubts. Please
    Stefan do inform us how stone will perform
    will definitely do Sham.
    Stefan

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