Thread: Dubl Duck Shrimp? Who knew?

Originally Posted by Utopian

I'm guessing it looks a lot like the Dwarf and Shrimp.

Let's not forget the Puma Ducks. I won't even mention the C-Mon/Filly.

nice pumi ducki, Jimmy!

I don't have a Napoleon

As a matter of fact I've never even seen one.

The Puma Duck is a different case. It's really not a DD. DD acted as retailer for a number of other companies (especially in the early days) and the Puma Ducks were actually Puma's where DD was the retailer and so you have the DD or Bresnick logo on them the same as with many other razors where the retailer has his name on it and it has other markings relating to the actual maker. Maybe it's a matter of degree, I don't know since we don't know who made the DDs but the actual DDs don't have manufacturers names on them. All the ones that do are a different case.

I know we've discussed this before and we keep coming up with strange explanations for the Puma Ducks and the French Ducks and some others but it's really as simple as them being a retailer. I guess the same as later on when they had some sort of agreement with Beau Brummel.

I suspect that Puma made the dubl duck bresduck and pearlducks. I may be mistaken. It is just a gut feeling. I have four Puma/bresnick razors and looking at my other bres and pearl ducks I think Puma made them with whatever brand the importer wanted on them.

That would explain this. I have not had it in my hand yet but soon. I got it because it looked to be an 8 ball and I am from Mich. Oh and it's got Ducks.

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"and so you have the DD or Bresnick logo on them the same as with many other razors where the retailer has his name on it and it has other markings relating to the actual maker. Maybe it's a matter of degree, I don't know since we don't know who made the DDs but the actual DDs don't have manufacturers names on them. All the ones that do are a different case. "

I think what you have there is someone using the DD logo. if they were dragged into court they could say the two ducks are not together like the DD logo so they are not in fact the DD logo. That's something a judge or jury would have to decide. Kind of like someone opening a burger joint and using 1 red arch. Think Mc Donalds would mind?

hmmmmm. Counterfeit eh ? I have an old guitar made in Japan that was so much a copy of the old Martin that it did go to court. They had to stop making them. Funny thing now is they are referred to as the illegal Takamine , limited in number and worth more. My uncle may be able to do some research on this for me as he is into Mich. history. (retired teacher ) I Googled J.L Ayres and came up with "0". One mention of Ayres in an article about Hudsons dept. store and I found out J.L Ayre was a large dept. store of the time and as popular as Sears, Macy's, etc. If I find out more I will pass it along. The razor is in great shape and smaller than the Satin Wedge I sent to Glen for some work. I have this attraction to the ducks for some reason and I have 2 in hand 1 with Glen and 4 more coming soon. I want to learn more but I think if I start collecting razors they will all be ducks. Am I daffy or what ? I will never start a business called Razors "r" Us that's for sure. That little "r" will definitely land you in court. When was that trade mark law passed ?

Question..is it the scales that make one razor diff. From another if it's 1 company making them?...DD wonderedge vs DD satinedge..scales differ but blade quality is the same?

Pcdad

Originally Posted by pcdad

Question..is it the scales that make one razor diff. From another if it's 1 company making them?...DD wonderedge vs DD satinedge..scales differ but blade quality is the same?

Pcdad

Huge area of contention there

Some people say "No there is no difference"

Most people that have honed and shaved many different ones say "Yes there are very obvious differences"

For sure the temper on the WonderEdge was different.
There are obvious grind differences
The razors came from, different eras, and proved from different companies so honestly to say they were all the same is a bit of a stretch.. Even if they wanted to make them the same it would have been near impossible to do, just by the availability of large quantities of the same steel supply...

Some of the razors were advertised (keep in mind that truth in advertising laws really did not exist then) as Swedish steel others were not, basically I just don't see them being all the same, there is to much evidence to the contrary...

But like many other things in this hobby, you just don't know for sure