Thread: Think these are Chanley's?

I probably bought the Guangxi of the auction Scipio is referring to because he posted the question with answer. It was advertised as a vintage stone which looked greenish in the pictures and had dark veins. As soon as I bought it he put up another one as BIN with the same pictures. I figured it was possible he cut a thick CF or worst case scenario another interesting vintage stone in half. So I bought that one as well.

As soon as opened the parcel they were obvious Guangxis. They also had circular saw marks no vintage stone has. So even if he didn't know they were Guangxis there was no chance someone with a little knowledge of hones could have mistaken these for vintage. He always takes pictures of the stones completely wet so you can't see the saw marks.

I returned them for a refund. I feel somewhat ashamed for falling for his scheme. This was just before people started posting pics of their veined Guangxis, bad timing. Anyway because I have dealt with him I can say that bacchus7-2007 is imho a total fraud, he can not be trusted. The fact he offers full refund if not happy is his failsafe for getting a bad rep. I explained to him these were Guangxis, however he continued to post them as unnamed ultrafine!!!!! hones for razors.

The two stones mentioned in the op are of a type often mistaken for CFs so it's possible bacchus7-2007 didn't know any better.

I am glad it sounds like you did get a CF, JeffE. I would like a closer look though

Thanks, Piet, that's useful information, and I'm sorry to hear you had a bad experience with him. I don't particularly care to defend someone who is giving bad products to members here, and it seems like you have good reason to complain. This is not your situation, but it does bother me sometimes when members here just label a seller as a fraud or scam artist without any basis for making that accusation. It's an easy accusation to make, and there's typically no one here who can say otherwise, so the seller just becomes known as a fraud by default.

Just out of curiosity, did you leave negative feedback for this seller on eBay? Because I always check out a seller's feedback closely before bidding, and this seller's feedback looked excellent.

Regarding my stone, it really does look most like a CF, and I have another CF to compare it to. If it's not a CF, I'd be confident in saying that the stone is some kind of Llyn Idwall, mostly because the grain structure looks so similar. Anyway, thanks for the info.

I didn't leave negative feedback because I was refunded and didn't want to receive bad comments in return from him. It would also have been hard to prove to ebay bacchus7-2007 knew the stones were cheap Guangxis and not vintage.

It did cost me shipping costs to Greece for returning the stones, but I was already glad it didn't cost me more. I will try my best to prevent others from making the same mistake.

They look remarkably like tam o'shanter hones to me.

Regards,
Neil

I've received one of this stones from Greece and I can confirm is not a CF, is a TOS, the seller including another stone for free because he know wasn't a CF, he says the other stone is a Thuri, but I'm not sure of that,maybe can be a Welsh slate. Anyway I think bacchus play with this, he knows very well what he sales. He offer to refund me if I back the stones to him, but I'vent do it. I've leaved a positive feedback for don't compromise my feedback, but he don't receive many stars.

Originally Posted by Bushdoctor

I've received one of this stones from Greece and I can confirm is not a CF, is a TOS, the seller including another stone for free because he know wasn't a CF, he says the other stone is a Thuri, but I'm not sure of that,maybe can be a Welsh slate. Anyway I think bacchus play with this, he knows very well what he sales. He offer to refund me if I back the stones to him, but I'vent do it. I've leaved a positive feedback for don't compromise my feedback, but he don't receive many stars.

sellers can't leave negative feedback for buyers.

As far as the seller I have a story too, he was selling a small thuringian the same size as the small boxed ones 5x1" but he had an Escher looking like label on the back only in blue. The label also did not say escher but the picture was exact copy. So I asked him and he confirmed it was a stone he got from Germany and the label is authentic. I won the auction and later after a while the label peeled off to reveal a greenish label that we see on thugingians. Anyway the stone is really good but he "enhanced" the looks of the item to get a few more bucks @ auction.

I know sham got one stone from him that was supposed to be escher but turned out to be far from it so it was returned.

I should note that I only posted this as a warning knowing full well they weren't CFs and more than likely were TOS's. Just didn't want anyone not knowing what to look for in a CF dropping serious coin on a TOS stone. I also didn't want it to get into any vendor bashing, which seems to be the way the thread has turned. Just wanted it to be a heads up to know what to look for before taking a gamble on anything on eBay. This seller actually has sold genuine CFs in the past, these just aren't them from the looks of the pictures.

it doesn't look like CF.
i have deal with that seller and he did refund the money.