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Thread: Was it out of line.......
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12-17-2011, 11:03 PM #11
What did you actually expect him to do? You made an agreement which he lived up to. Then you gave him MISLEADING feedback, not very nice IMHO.
I would have been a bit angry also and may have responded the same way. Sending a nasty gram to you was not really a nice thing to do, but trashing the guys feedback was not the right thing to do either. I never pay more than 5 bucks for US shipping. If it is seller wants more, I don't buy.
If it arrived in the condition as described in the auction, it was packaged properly.
Just my 2 cents.“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
Albert Einstein
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12-17-2011, 11:25 PM #12
I guess I don't see how he lived up to it. Like I said I didn't have a problem paying it per the agreement I guess I just expected since I was paying $8 I would get $8 worth of good packing no matter what the actual cost of shipping it was. Or at least $5 worth of packing NOT a $1 store envelope and some left over bubble wrap.
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12-17-2011, 11:33 PM #13
You asked for our opinions. IMHO you were way out of line.
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12-17-2011, 11:50 PM #14
You don't really know what it cost him to send your package. As referred to previously, he may drive a car that gets 10 miles per gallon and lives 5 miles from a post office. That would cost him a few bucks also.
I don't like over paying for shipping....matter of fact, I won't. But if I decide to buy from a vendor and knowingly agree to the shipping price and the price of the item and it arrives safely, I really have no beef.
I agree.“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
Albert Einstein
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12-18-2011, 12:09 AM #15
I’ve done business with Glen (GSSIXGUN) many times! His pricing for shipping is right up front for you to see! His packaging is always top notch!
I’m not really familiar with doing business with EBay and the likes (I’m not a Dinosaur, but a definitely a Mastodon with this technological terror)!
Anyway:
Not long ago, I went to buy a straight razor related item from a very well known online dealer: (this particular dealer sells not only from themselves but for others). When I went to checkout I found that the shipping was more than twice what I wanted to purchase (two 2oz items)!! Before I ordered, I contacted the seller asking why the shipping could possibly be that high! They responded that ‘they’ didn’t establish the shipping charge, their ‘partner’ did!!
It took awhile but I finally figured out how to find the original seller and purchased directly from them! Shipping was include in the price/same price as at their (Partner’s site)!
Just my little input! I hope I’m not off subject!Our house is as Neil left it- an Aladdin’s cave of 'stuff'.
Kim X
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12-18-2011, 12:19 AM #16
Now , and then , I sell razors in the classifieds . I include the cost of the shipping in the price of the razor . I only ship priority mail , in a flat rate box , insured , with signature delivery confirmation . I do this so I know that the razor was actually delivered to the person it was sent to , in the same condition it was in when it left my hands . This costs me around $9 or more (depending on the cost of the insurance) . Add the pay pal fee , and the cost of a gallon of gasoline , and were talking in the neighborhood of $15 .
Greetings , from Dundalk , Maryland . The place where normal people , fear to go .
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12-18-2011, 02:10 AM #17
I live overseas from most shaving and coffee vendors. I ordered some stuff from one coffee vendor, and the price came to about $3-4 above actual costs. I figure that covered the box, the styrofoam peanuts, etc. I don't see that as unreasonable. I ordered some shaving stuff from a vendor heavily associated with this site, and I think I was charged about $14 above actual shipping costs. In that second case, there were boxes within boxes and a customs form. Still, I felt overcharged on that second one.
Shipping is a way some people make a few extra bucks. As a customer, I don't like it. I won't ever buy again from that second vendor I mentioned. It's something all vendors should be aware of before deciding to do it. I just think it's best to be as honest and open as possible and try for repeat business, rather than going for a quick extra buck and risk alienating a customer and garnering some negative comments.
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12-18-2011, 03:15 AM #18
When the auction states 'Economy Shipping' there is no reason to expect getting priority, or next day, or express, even if the shipping charges are $100. As far as insurance goes the seller isn't liable to provide that, it is for his protection and not that of the buyer, as ebay has the seller liable to deliver the item in the promised state. How the seller choses to do that or how to split the cost between item and shipping is really up to them, at the best it is between them and ebay, but the buyer should stay out of it.
Ebay provides and option for detailed feedback, and that's where the buyer can reflect if the shipping charges were too high.
It's like buying anything else on the internet, usually there are shipping costs, and in most cases they are higher than the cost of the postage itself. Even when sellers offer free shipping, the buyer still pays for it, it's just hidden.
So I don't see why people get their underwear bunched up over such a common practice when the end result is insignificant anyways.
As far as the rude email from the seller, you received it AFTER you left the feedback. To me it makes a bit of a difference if the seller is being rude and unprofessional over the normal course of a transaction, or just afterwards when they are provoked.
BTW you placed two bids on that item, i.e. you were willing to pay more. Nobody else bid on the razor, so you paid the minimum the seller was willing to sell it for, including the shipping. Which means you got a deal (paid less than what you were willing), while the seller didn't (got the minimum he wanted).
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12-18-2011, 03:20 AM #19
In my opinion, other than the obvious problem of complaining about a shipping method/price agreed to by the contract of purchase, the OP included an identifying Ebay name, in effect bashing him beyond his feedback on Ebay, extending it to this forum. Thinking before typing is always advisable. We all regret things we do, but it has not been mentioned whether or not the entire transaction/product was satisfactory, so we shall assume it was. I feel a 5 buck problem is not worth discussing. Again, My Opinion Get it on...........Tom
"Don't be stubborn. You are missing out."
I rest my case.
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HarleyFXST (12-18-2011)
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12-18-2011, 03:50 AM #20
I didn't expect priority or anything but economy shipping. I was using the flat rate box as an example and knew it would brought up that those are priorty mail but I expected economy shipping.
As for the 2 bids yes there were,1 normal self entered bid and one a snipe I set up after placing that bid since I had to start my show (work in theatre) and wasn't able to watch the auction end. So yes I did get a deal I was surprised there were no other bids.
also the feedback that I left was positive i didn't choose neutral or negative (as I DO think that would be uncalled for) I just chose to write what I was disappointed in. I also guess I use the feedback system different when deciding to purchase from a seller. But I do very much appreciate your guys feedback and opinions on this here!!!