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    I love the Bergischer the most
    How is it?
    Will it be a good one to start with?
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    Is the fact that it isn't fully hollowed doesn't matter?

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    Dovo is one of the best brands and that is one of their best razors, so I would guess that it would be a great starter. A bit pricey, but still a good razor.

    As far as the grind on it, I wouldn't worry too much about it. These are minor differences that you come to appreciate. This is why many guys get into collecting and using different razors. Every razors is different and is a joy to use for different reasons. I would say go for the Bergisher, as it will most certainly shave you well, and then, if you want, you can get other razors to try them out. I have kept up with your posts and from what I can gather, your hooked already. I wont be surprised at all when you post about another razor you are looking at or have boughten.

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    I think my problem is less the razor, but all the stuff needed for it
    Strop, stones for honig and so on
    It take place to put here (Where will I put the strop?!)
    And getting the knowledge to use them well, I am afraid I won't be able to sharp my steel and only ruin it and be very upsate with it

    And, I can't find any place on the net that will sell me all the stuff I want
    One have the stone only
    One have the razor
    and one have the strop
    What to do?!
    I didn't thought it will be so hard to get startting with it

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    Unfortunately there aren't many places that sell everything you need, but classic gets pretty close. They have razors, strops, and the norton water stones. Basically the only thing you can't get there that was on your list is a yellow coticule stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EAD View Post
    ... And, I can't find any place on the net that will sell me all the stuff I want ...
    It's all at Tony's store. He's on a little vacation right now so you'll have to be patient. He has sets available for an all in one including a razor, but you can make a deal with hime to exclude it if you want another type. He's a great guy to deal with.

    I'd say don't worry too much about getting the best razor ever on your first purchase. Take the first year to try different razors and sell the ones you're not going to keep a little later down the road. That's one of the very nice things about the restorations that happen around here, great vintage blades at very good prices and the market remains pretty constant.

    Get yourself a few cheap razors from eBay to practice your honing on and I think it would be best to learn to hone a carbon steel blade first. Save the stainless steel for a little later.

    If you're still dead set on getting a new razor, I would like to praise Thiers-Issard. Every TI razor I have ever honed and shaved with has been the absolute peak of quality.

    I also prefer a 6/8 or 7/8. Great minds think alike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by majurey View Post
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    You press hard enough so that the blade actually flexes on your skin?! Have I misunderstood? Can't say I've ever got the feeling that my blade is flexing (with a 5/8 full hollow Dovo CS).
    It's difficult to explain to someone that has not shaved with a Dovo Stainless. Normally I don't get the feeling that my blades flex at all. Untill I tried a DOVO Stainless that is. Somehow the blade felt "stiffer" than both my sheffield silversteel blades. And I'm pretty certain that the Bergischer Löwe is stainless. (When Dovo tlk about Swedish steel instead of Solingen steel it usually means stainless as opposed to carbon.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xman View Post
    It's all at Tony's store. He's on a little vacation right now so you'll have to be patient. He has sets available for an all in one including a razor, but you can make a deal with hime to exclude it if you want another type. He's a great guy to deal with.

    I'd say don't worry too much about getting the best razor ever on your first purchase. Take the first year to try different razors and sell the ones you're not going to keep a little later down the road. That's one of the very nice things about the restorations that happen around here, great vintage blades at very good prices and the market remains pretty constant.

    Get yourself a few cheap razors from eBay to practice your honing on and I think it would be best to learn to hone a carbon steel blade first. Save the stainless steel for a little later.

    If you're still dead set on getting a new razor, I would like to praise Thiers-Issard. Every TI razor I have ever honed and shaved with has been the absolute peak of quality.

    I also prefer a 6/8 or 7/8. Great minds think alike.

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    I don't know
    I want something new to start with, and some thing good, so I know the only problem (If I will have some) is because of my technique
    So
    I want the best I can get in the market, also things like strop, stones and so on, will probably last more then the blades I will keep on buying or selling
    So I want the best instruments I can get

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    Quote Originally Posted by EAD View Post
    ... I want the best instruments I can get
    Another reason to look again at the Thiers-Issard, IMHO.

    X

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    Yup, and as for strops and stones etc there is no-one on the maket tha thas a better name than Tony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LX_Emergency View Post
    It's difficult to explain to someone that has not shaved with a Dovo Stainless. Normally I don't get the feeling that my blades flex at all. Untill I tried a DOVO Stainless that is. Somehow the blade felt "stiffer" than both my sheffield silversteel blades. And I'm pretty certain that the Bergischer Löwe is stainless. (When Dovo tlk about Swedish steel instead of Solingen steel it usually means stainless as opposed to carbon.)
    OK, now I'm going to have to get myself a SS blade. I'll tell my wife it's your fault!

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