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Thread: What razor to choose ?!
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03-20-2007, 07:11 PM #21
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03-20-2007, 07:19 PM #22
I own the DOVO best quality strop and I have had seen and used one of Tony's strops (Thanks John P.) Tony's strop is definately better quality and cheaper.
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03-20-2007, 07:23 PM #23
Like I said though Tony's stones are not better than the Norton's at classic shaving, they are different. The 4K side of the Norton is is a fast cutting stone and is used for forming the edge and the 8K side on the Norton is used for polishing the edge. The edge produced from the Norton is "shave ready" and many people are completely happy with this edge. Some people (including myself) like to refine the edge even more and this can be done with 1 micron and .5 micron pastes, or with finishing stones like the Belgian Coticule or Tony's stones. Tony's stones are finishing stones.
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03-20-2007, 07:43 PM #24
A couple of points:
1) Tony's strops kick the crap out of the Dovo strops - I've used both and at all pirce points, Tony's strops are better.
2) Unless you're really fixated on getting a new razor, get a nice refurbished razor from someone on the board - you'll pay between $40 and $50 for a shaving sharp razor that's been refurbished/cleaned up vs. a minimum of $100 for a new pre-honed razor. The TI plane jane Evide Sonant (full hollow) and Le Gnome (1/2 or 1/4 hollow - heavier grinds) are good buys for under $100. The Dovo Special with the mock shell handle is also supposed to be good.
3) There is a difference between SS and carbon razors - they take and hold an edge a little differently and shave a little differently. SS razors are stiffer than comparably sized carbon razors. I really like the two SS razors I have. The Dovo SS for $100 is a good buy.
4) While good technique and a sharp razor can shave any beard, I found that stiffer razors were more forgiving when learning and I still have a preference for heavier grinds. I also think 6/8 is a better size than 5/8 when starting out - bigger razors are a little stiffer and help compensate for less-than-perfect stropping/shaving technique.
5) You don't need a hone to start. A pasted paddle or bench hone from Tony will let you keep your razor sharp/refresh the edge and is easier to learn with.
So, while Classic is a good vendor, you can get everything you need to get started from Tony and he sells starter sets for very reasonable prices.
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03-20-2007, 07:57 PM #25
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Thanked: 0Amm I see
So, you think I should start with the things Tony has to offer?
I don't think Tony has like Thiers-Issard and so on
(witch according to most guys here and things I have read, seem like a really god razors)
As for size
I know I love more "small" ones, becuse I will probably have problems using a 6/8 under my nose and all the small parts of my face
and as for steel or carbon
Well Thiers-Issard makes good carboon like the Sheffield Silver Steel, isn't it a very good steel to use?
And isn't "singing" blade is a good one for me?
I have so many questions, but it seem like I have no chance on getting all the things I want from one seller
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03-20-2007, 08:04 PM #26
Ead,
One BIG plus for me with SS is the non rusting issue. I have some brand new CS razors which I have only used a few times, and they are already showing spotting in some places on the razors. This is despite my best efforts of totally drying them properly after use (obviously not enough).
John
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03-20-2007, 08:07 PM #27
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Thanked: 0So, is it better to take SS or a carbon? I know the plus and minus of each one
I prefer Steel, but the question is how much will I be able to keep the edge keen? and can it have a very fine edge like the carbon can?
and btw, no matter who I am buying from, I am sure to have it sharpen for me for the first time
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03-20-2007, 09:03 PM #28
http://www.shavemyface.com/forum/vie...703&highlight=
Here's the same topic as discussed over on SMF also.
~Tye
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03-20-2007, 09:08 PM #29
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Thanked: 0Yep, well knoe I know what is the different, and I want to buy one
But still
Look at what each people tell me here, it isn't 100% carbon or 100% SS
Every one has is own opinion, and I am not sure what I can get
Can you help or you come here only to make some laugh at me?!
I do know you have great ideas and knowledge to share, so please share it with me, and not just try to make laugh and not to help at all
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03-20-2007, 09:14 PM #30
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Like I have said before, I will go for the Thiers-Issard razors
The Sheffield Silver steel seem like a nice good carbon to me after all I have read
Now
What to choose? size?
and like I have said before, I also need things to being able to strop the blade and hone it by myself
BTW
Do I need to have it sharpen by Lynn first? or is it come shave ready?
I have heard some guys here tell that the Thiers-Issard are shave ready
and also
If I buy it sharp ready from classicashaving, how much will the blade last until I need to hone it?
I am asking it, because maybe I will just buy a razor and a strop, and maybe later I will get the 4000/8000 Norton and some finner level too