Thread: A very big problem, help before ................

Is the grind a wedge? I could be talking out my arse but your actual edge looks straight. So I'm thinking the spine is the issue or the tape you applied might have caused the problem, not being applied evenly on each side.
Maybe go back and use 2 layers of electrical tape evenly applied, a marker and check your progress frequently. I can't imagine it will be pretty when it's done but maybe you could get a usable edge but still have that huge bevel. Just trying to help so be gentle guys...

It does appear to be a wedge but then I would think that warping would not be an issue, but a bent spine isn't out of the question. Do you have shots of the top (spine), bottom (edge) and end of the razor? And I am still wondering how the damage got to be that bad before you stopped.

Originally Posted by Trimmy72

Is the grind a wedge? I could be talking out my arse but your actual edge looks straight. So I'm thinking the spine is the issue or the tape you applied might have caused the problem, not being applied evenly on each side.
Maybe go back and use 2 layers of electrical tape evenly applied, a marker and check your progress frequently. I can't imagine it will be pretty when it's done but maybe you could get a usable edge but still have that huge bevel. Just trying to help so be gentle guys...

i think it is problem with the spine, because i hone before another razor with electrical tape, i hate huge bevel, i read some where about marker but i dont know how to do , u know , i am rookei

May well be warped but did you hone with 2 hands & fingers pressing on the edge ?

some more pic maybe help

Originally Posted by onimaru55

May well be warped but did you hone with 2 hands & fingers pressing on the edge ?

yes i dit , i but not much pressure, i did like i use to do , never hapend like that.

Looking at the scratch pattern is appears you go straight across the hone ? No X stroke ? Even with a warped spine a modified rolling x will compensate. A PITA but that is what it takes IME. Also, from the look of it I would expect it was a very coarse hone and/or a lot of pressure ? Not trying to rub salt into the wound, just trying to see what the source of the problem may have been.

BTW, the marker is quite easy to use. Take a magic marker. a sharpie, and color the very edge of the blade. As you do a stroke or two across the hone only the places the bevel touches will have the color removed. You do it until you see what stroke is working effectively. Then wipe the marker off the blade and continue honing.

The blade may be fixable as far as cosmetics and use are concerned. If it is a wedge, and there is enough meat there, you might be able to send it out and have it correctly honed to be usable, and polished so it won't be such an eyesore.

That looks to be a shallow grind if anything.

I'd take all the tape off, and run a full stone progression keeping a very close eye on it. Once you get to the finishing stones you should be able to work the rest of the grind marks out with Crox on a cloth.

Then go back and rehone it on 4 layers of tape again, but this time pay more attention and if it's catching those high spots add more tape.

You can do some simple math to work out your maximum spine width using trigonometry.

split the razor into two mathematical right angled triangles down the spine, and work in 1/2 spine width and hypotenuse (distance from widest part of the spine to the edge). The resultant angle will be 1/2 the final bevel. so for a 20 degree bevel your looking at 10 degrees per side.

I can't tell from the new pictures. Have you placed it on a known flat surface to check for a bent spine. From what I can see, it may be time for a re grind to a 1/4 hollow to get those work areas out but only after you figure out if the spine is bent.

The marker is used to see what your actually doing at the edge when honing. Mark the edge and hone, you will see what is touching the stone and what is not. By the looks of the bevel you have low and high spots on the spine. (little late with my post JimmyHAD explained it better)

Pretty sure when you see an uneven bevel it's a good indication of how even the spine is or your tape
And like others have said it may be warped, but I'm leaning more toward what ominaru55 said and uneven taping plus existing spine wear compounding the problem.
I guess you could always mark the spine too and then run the razor across a hone to see what is touching and what is not. Or lay the razor across your hone and see if it rocks on the spine (not sure if that is a good idea or not), or sight it for a warp