Quote Originally Posted by jigane View Post
While i fully agree that a pro honed razor is worth much but its not like you have to search for long to find out that many razors that are supposed to be shave ready are infact not. My Iwasaki was obviously sharpened at the iwasaki HQ but still that sharpening was not up to par imo.

I guess for a total noob "shave ready" is good, then you have some kind of a baseline.

But in reality the user would sooner or later need at least 3-4 stones and imo its better to learn to use these instead of trusting that the razor is infact shave ready. I mean I could have stropped my iwasaki until the cows came home but it would never have been comfortable FOR ME, for the person at iwasaki maybe it was good but for me it wasnt good enough.

Basically it think it works like this "define shave ready".... could be anything.
And as we say around here: if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself.

As a noob its only a matter of time anyway. Sometime quite soon you will be forced to do it yourself.
All of which is exactly why we recommend buying from recognized vendors who have a proven track record of shipping razors that are truly shave-ready, i.e. razors that are not shipped with the edge put on in the factory.