alright guys i just shaved with my straight. i went WTG which went fine. i stropped this like 20-30 passes on the linen and 30-50 on the leather. i went real flat ligh touch. it shaved better than most times. i then went with my mach3 WTG because i know it just gets everything. i did a light touch with it though as i dont want razorburn and there wasnt much hair left. then i went ATG with my straight and it tugged. so i changed the angle and made it real flat. i made it so flat that i even went a bit the other way and i realized that this finally cut. i went like this on my cheeks as my neck wasnt used to it still. on my cheeks, i made it beyond flat if that makes sense and it did cut, but it wasnt that close at all. there was still stubble so i changed the angle and it did cut more but im just beginning so i need to work on that more. i obviously had to go ATG with my mach3 in the end. by the way all this was done in the shower as i just cant shave outside the shower. id rather just use my mach3 in the shower anyway. since it took longer, the lather got watery from the steam so next time will have to leave window open. i did have to relather in the shower to get that "sticky" lather from my tried and true red proraso cream.