i have the norton 4/8k and it works great, i lap it on wet/dry paper which is the one thing i don't like (which is no fault of the hone). from what i have read the DMT mentioned above is what i want. i also have the 12k chinese which i like, but i wouldn't say i could do with just it alone. have you considered a pasted strop? i use my CrOx to touch things up every 3 weeks or so but these are very minor touch ups, basically me being fussy, but it does make things smooth out nicely. not matter what you won't be disappointed with the norton.