Shaving Techniques for Bearded Ones??

**New2CutThroats** · 10-01-2009, 07:13 PM

Hey guys,

I'm considering growing a goatee. I know it suits my face, but the downside will be>>>>less area to shave. I never thought I'd say that, but I've been loving every second of learning how to shave with a straight.

My question is, do any of you know of some videos of experienced shavers with beards showing their techniques of how they establish their lines and such?

With a goatee, it's not that much of an adjustment, but if you had a beard that joined up with the side burns, you would have a different starting point to your shave.

So I'm really hoping if there isn't a video or two out there, showing a veteran (with the SR) how they establish those lines, that one ( or two, or three) of you fine gentlemen will produce a video, or two....or three.

Cheers and thanks.

**commiecat** · 10-01-2009, 07:30 PM

Jockeys made one that you might be interested in:
YouTube - Jockeys' Straight Shaving Demonstration Part 1

**New2CutThroats** · 10-01-2009, 09:12 PM

Holy!

One stroke with a Jockeys-sized brush and I'd be suffocating in foam! Man, that thing is huge. Maybe it's a good thing that I like smaller brushes, as I am hoping when I get a real one (meaning one made of badger hair) that it won't be as pricey? Cause it's smaller? Less hair? Less money? Wishful thinking?
Or logic?

Anyhow, good video. Thanks for pointing me in it's direction.

**DPflaumer** · 10-01-2009, 09:59 PM

If you are looking for a cheapish quality badger brush, I bought my Edwin Jagger pure badger on bestgroomingtools.com for $25. They ship fast too, usually no more than 2 days from my order, I have my box.

I have a goatee myself, and I actually found it easy to mark the line with a straight, basically I just come in from the side with the blade straight up and down, and just stop where I feel the line should be.

**New2CutThroats** · 10-01-2009, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by DPflaumer

If you are looking for a cheapish quality badger brush, I bought my Edwin Jagger pure badger on bestgroomingtools.com for $25. They ship fast too, usually no more than 2 days from my order, I have my box.

I have a goatee myself, and I actually found it easy to mark the line with a straight, basically I just come in from the side with the blade straight up and down, and just stop where I feel the line should be.

Hey, thanks for the tip, but unfortunately, as is the case with many of these websites, with pretty decent prices, they don't ship to Canada.

Oh well. For those of you in the states, I suggest you check out this website. I wanted to get the shave mug there (an actual scuttle) that was under 20 bucks and came with a cake of Col. Conk's to boot. Can't afford any of it right now, anyway. But yes, my American friends, check this site out. Prices seem reasonable.

**commiecat** · 10-01-2009, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by New2CutThroats

Holy!

One stroke with a Jockeys-sized brush and I'd be suffocating in foam! Man, that thing is huge. Maybe it's a good thing that I like smaller brushes, as I am hoping when I get a real one (meaning one made of badger hair) that it won't be as pricey? Cause it's smaller? Less hair? Less money? Wishful thinking?
Or logic?

Anyhow, good video. Thanks for pointing me in it's direction.

Well he would be the person to ask about the brush -- he might have even answered that before. But on the topic of brushes, ol' jockeys can help you out there as well. He had a three-part how-to on making your own brushes which I've since followed:
http://straightrazorpalace.com/brush...m-brushes.html
http://straightrazorpalace.com/brush...-many-pix.html
http://straightrazorpalace.com/brush...es-pt-3-a.html

Basically you can buy the brush knots individually for very affordable prices at The Golden Nib. International shipping isn't available on the shopping cart, but you can email your order and get a quote for shipping to Canada:
The Golden Nib.

Then you just need to either make your own handle like jockeys, or find one in an antique store for cheap and gut it like I did. I posted my results here -- 22mm silvertip for about $35 total:
http://straightrazorpalace.com/brush...back-life.html

**Ryan82** · 10-01-2009, 11:43 PM

Hey N2CT's,

I know how you feel about growing a beard and not having much to shave afterward, such is a pratfall of our hobby. But as a former beard-wearer (or beardie if you will) I do have much experience with growing/shaping, etc with many different shaving appliances.

Some general rules:
1. Resist the temptation to shape n' shave right away. Even after a couple days growth. You'll end up with ill-defined crappy beard lines, so let it grow out for about a week. It also provides extra time to decide what style you will want to go with.

2. Shape with a trimmer first. Not only is it easier, but you will have more control over the lines you are shaping. Plus it's not as messy 'cause lather is not a factor, and you can see what you are doing.

3. Overall, shaving w/facial hair isn't really different. It just requires a bit of extra patience and concentration, which I assume you are already practicing as I'm guessing that you presently shave with a straight.

Best regards,

Ryan

BTW - Glad to see another Canuck on the forum. Feel free to send a PM.

**DPflaumer** · 10-01-2009, 11:55 PM

Concerning the lather issue:

I usually shave a rough outline around my goatee and leave the fine work for last. Then before I try to get the exact line, I wipe the lather off around the very edge of the goatee. The hair is still moisturized and soft, but I can easily see where hair and skin meet.

Another thing that works well for me, something that allows you to keep shaving while trying to grow, is to purposely leave too big an area unshaved. That way you still get the joy of shaving, but are also able to see where the facial hair will be/ what it will look like. Then as the hair gets longer, I tighten up the shape until I get just what I want.

Another option on the brush, although more difficult, would be working with a member on here and having them order a brush and then ship it to you. Slightly more costly, but possibly the best option. I'm not terribly familiar with shipping to Canada though, so it might cost more than you are looking to spend.

**DPflaumer** · 10-01-2009, 11:57 PM

So I just did a quick check and...

fendrihan.com has the same EJ brush for under $30 Canadian, and as a Canadian site I'm sure shipping to Canada is an obvious option.

Hope that helps you out
Drew

**gssixgun** · 10-02-2009, 12:22 AM

It is a rare occasion that I get to answer questions about "Shaving"

I started Straight razor shaving 5 days after I grew my first beard back in 1981-82..

My barber told me "Ya want straight lines use a straight edge" that and all / any other type of shaving irritated my face enough to make me want to grow a beard...

Some bad things about a beard, the angles that you have to use while shaving are terrible, and they are very hard on edges... You have to have the absolute sharpest edges you can get to keep the lines in shape.. There really is no smooth stroke you basically take a ton of small little ones...

Learn how to do a final water pass as this is what really gets the BBS feeling everywhere except where the beard is and leaves those razor straight lines afterward....

I have found that the extreme hollows around 11/16 size and a spike point seems to be that best for me to shave with... Using a very light touch

Hope that helps out

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