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Thread: First Shave - Did not go well
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07-16-2010, 11:59 PM #11
You will get tons of advice from folks that know their stuff. I started back in February and am now able to get a great shave.
The technique and angle are important and takes time and experience, Go slow, ask questions here on the SRP and eventually you will get a great shave.
Hang in there it is worth it. I only give pep talks since I am too new to give any shaving advice!!“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
Albert Einstein
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07-17-2010, 12:01 AM #12
O.K. then,we can eliminate this as part of the problem.....
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07-17-2010, 12:14 AM #13
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Thanked: 270I've been on this straight razor odyssey since Easter weekend and boy does your experience sound familiar. It's not easy to master and there is no substitute for repetition. One day you are going to go through the same motions you have been going through since Day 1 and suddenly realize something you never noticed before and make a proper adjustment. That makes you feel great. I'm still trying to get consistently good shaves every time out of the box. One thing I have found out is that I shave better on days off than in the mornings before work because I am more relaxed and have fewer things on my mind.
If you want it bad enough you will get there and enjoy it immensely. It sounds from the tone of your post that you have the desire to get the job done.
Straight razor shaver and loving it!40-year survivor of electric and multiblade razors
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07-17-2010, 07:10 AM #14
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07-17-2010, 10:05 AM #15
It gets better, I'm on my fourth shave and it is slowly getting better. My first shave pulled and overall was very uncomfortable, with my last shave I didn't really notice any pulling but parts of my face burned. I'm sure it will pass as my face adjust to a straight razor and my technique improves. Stick with it and I'm sure things will get better.
Good Luck
Adam
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07-17-2010, 10:57 AM #16
That really must be hard. I live in an area surrounded by chalk hills, & have no problem. Having to boil up distilled water would be enough to put me off. Might be worth trying a top end cream & seeing how it performs with your standard water.
It's obvious, but use a decent face soap to remove oils without drying the skin. This will allow water to penetrate the stubble & soften it.
Stop doing this. Leave the face wet. It keeps the lather from drying out for far longer.
And this. You have enough variables without mixing your own formulas. Just use each good quality product at any one time.
A good hot shower should be enough. Conditioner can help, but a shower & good lather do more than enough.
30 degrees? Did you have your protractor? It's hard to judge. Aim for the spine to be two to three spines width from the face. As you make progress, tighten up the angle for successive passes, reducing the number of spine widths.
Learn to stretch properly. The skin should not be moving too much as the razor glides over it. The act of stretching in conjunction with the direction of the blade should lift the hair, not encourage it to lay flatter.
More passes are better than more pressure. Don't aim to take off too much on the first pass. There's no harm in doing two or more WTG passes, till you're comfortable enough to move on to XTG etc.
Really thick lather sometimes doesn't have enough water in it.
Hollow blades do sound "like sandpaper". Don't worry about that. Full hollows may ring, wedges are fairly silent. The sound a blade makes can be a useful tool when you know what it's telling you, but right now, you probably haven't the experience to read it.
Don't be disheartened. If you could just pick up a straight & get fine shaves where would you get the satisfaction from when you master it?
Good luck.
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07-27-2010, 08:08 PM #17Don't be disheartened. If you could just pick up a straight & get fine shaves where would you get the satisfaction from when you master it?
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07-27-2010, 09:49 PM #18
I'm about 60 shaves in and I've found that moving the razor in a slight sawing manner cut the beard much smoother. What I mean by sawing is that the razor is not hitting the beard hairs straight on but rather pulling across them in a downward motion thus sawing.
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07-27-2010, 09:58 PM #19
That is called scything motion shaving.(if you search you should be able to find some information about it on srp)
that is the correct way to use straight razor.( use as a saw instead of axe)
Stretching is very important part of this shaving.
if you are learning after 60 shave scything you are way front many of people.
Soon you will find you don't have to shave ATG to get BBS shave.
good luck and have fun.
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07-27-2010, 10:21 PM #20
Be encouraged. I think your story is pretty typical of all of us who started out recently.
One thing I don't think anyone has mentioned is just the fact that your razor is straight and your face has undulations. I find I do better if I let the "swaths" overlap. So I work down from the sideburn letting the sections overlap maybe a third. Different parts of the blade will engage the whiskers with different degrees of "bite" depending on the dips and curves in your face.
I also realized I was not really maintaining that angle consistently. Going slow, being gentle, using short strokes of maybe an inch or so did better.
Also be careful about stretching the skin. I have found generally that stretching the skin from the "beginning" point of the stroke works better than from below. That is, if the whiskers grow downward, in a WTG stroke I stretch the skin from the "up" side but in the ATG stroke I stretch from the other side. I hope that's right--I know others will gently correct if I'm mistaken!
Be patient. Don't even go for the whole face at first. Don't let it ruin your day!