Thread: Kriegar KG101 looks like it has a "kitchen knife" hone

I understand the Kreigar is a seriously low-class low-quality straight razor. It happens to be the first one someone bought for me and I haven't yet used it.

The razor does look quite nice, but am I supposed to see what appears to be a hone copied from a kitchen knife?

As I understand it, a proper hone on a straight razor consists of straight intersecting lines extending essentially from the spine, as opposed to a kitchen knife hone which is usually only the last millimeter or so of the actual edge.

I'm currently looking for a better razor before getting into shaving, but for my own knowledge and education I'd appreciate some information on whether what I am seeing is as bad as it appears to me to be.

Could you please do some reading in the Wiki and try to figure out what you mean by the word hone? I'm not sure what it is that you are describing.

It is on the list of razors to avoid for a reason.

Originally Posted by Utopian

Could you please do some reading in the Wiki and try to figure out what you mean by the word hone? I'm not sure what it is that you are describing.

Technically yes, I am referring to the edge, but I am referring to it using the noun form of the verb form of the noun hone. The hone (n) being the item with which one hones (v), the result in the worked upon item also capable of being referred to as a hone (n).

Originally Posted by Otto

It is on the list of razors to avoid for a reason.

I've figured that out. Which is why my question isn't "is it terrible" but "is the sort of edge I'm seeing on this indicating what I think it is indicating".

Originally Posted by music2myear

Technically yes, I am referring to the edge, but I am referring to it using the noun form of the verb form of the noun hone. The hone (n) being the item with which one hones (v), the result in the worked upon item also capable of being referred to as a hone (n).

"Technically?"
OK, welcome to a semantics nightmare. I'll go along with your definition and try to answer your original questions.

Originally Posted by music2myear

I understand the Kreigar is a seriously low-class low-quality straight razor.

Yup.

Originally Posted by music2myear

The razor does look quite nice, but am I supposed to see what appears to be a hone copied from a kitchen knife?

No.

Originally Posted by music2myear

As I understand it, a proper hone on a straight razor consists of straight intersecting lines extending essentially from the spine, as opposed to a kitchen knife hone which is usually only the last millimeter or so of the actual edge.

Yes, those "straight intersecting lines," or planes, are determined by the geometry of the edge relative to the spine. That geometry determines the angle of the resulting edge.

Originally Posted by music2myear

Technically yes, I am referring to the edge, but I am referring to it using the noun form of the verb form of the noun hone. The hone (n) being the item with which one hones (v), the result in the worked upon item also capable of being referred to as a hone (n).

]]

Am sorry, but can't keep quiet on this, that's just facetious as hell.. All Utopian was trying to do ask you to go into the wiki and figure out what you meant in the venacular of the community so he could help you by answering your question.

Originally Posted by tekbow

]]

Am sorry, but can't keep quiet on this, that's just facetious as hell.. All Utopian was trying to do ask you to go into the wiki and figure out what you meant in the venacular of the community so he could help you by answering your question.

I'd characterize it as jocular, but I suppose facetious works. Depends on perspective, eh?

Thank you, Utopian, for your forbearance and the clear answer. I suppose I'm off to the classifieds now.

I find that my perspective is usually off. I didn't know if you were being jocular, or confused, or an ass; but I tried to help just the same. Regardless of the "hone" of a Kriegar, it ain't a viable razor. You will find much better in the classifieds.

Stick around and ask anything, any way, you wish!

Guys: If I read the OP right, he was referring to the width of the bevel. He thinks all straight shaving razors are wedges, and the bevel should be all the way from the spine to the shaving edge of the bevel. His blade, like the kitchen knives he's familiar with, only has a 1mm width bevel, so he thinks that's what's wrong with the razor -- not that it's poor quality steel, grind, etc. I guess he'll figure it out when he sees other blades.