Thread: how smooth can it be??

Originally Posted by onimaru55

From the bevel shapes both razors appear to have some warpage. I'm sorry for being blunt but as a newb these will be a challenge for you to hone. On the + side if you get them right you should be able to hone most razors.

Fair enough and thank you.
FYI, this is my second fromm. The first one I purchased showed signs of warp so I contacted the guy and he sent me another new one. Now this one too is showing signs of warp. I'm guessing it's something I'm doing. If you search youtube for "toxikwaste straight razor" this is the buy i'm trying to emulate. If someone has a few minutes would it be possible to watch bits and pieces of his videos and tell me what he's doing that I might not want to do. He's shown the sharpest razors I've ever seen and since I'm teaching myself I'm trying to follow him.


p.s. I flatten my stones before every session. Is that advised?

It also might be good to set up your location, you could have an experianced member down the road or not far away. 'If' there is a member close they may be nice enough to offer some assistance.

All the guys are really good on here and It has happened before so i see no reason why it wouldn't happen again.

Originally Posted by q31

Fair enough and thank you. S'ok
FYI, this is my second fromm. The first one I purchased showed signs of warp so I contacted the guy and he sent me another new one. Now this one too is showing signs of warp. I'm guessing it's something I'm doing. It can happen that a batch is like that & may not be your honing.
If you search youtube for "toxikwaste straight razor" this is the buy i'm trying to emulate. If someone has a few minutes would it be possible to watch bits and pieces of his videos and tell me what he's doing that I might not want to do. He's shown the sharpest razors I've ever seen and since I'm teaching myself I'm trying to follow him. If you learn by watching, watch lots of guys honing videos & look for underlying principles rather than specific technique. It does take a little time


p.s. I flatten my stones before every session. Is that advised? A quick lap never hurts

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So let me get this right, it's not only possible but popular to get a good, shave ready bevel off of an 8K??

Originally Posted by q31

So let me get this right, it's not only possible but popular to get a good, shave ready bevel off of an 8K??

You can shave straight off a good 8k if honed well, I remember reading that Lynn used too shave off an 8k

I used to shave off an 8000 (shaved off a 6000 as well, but don't recommend it), but it is nicer to shave off higher grit finishes. It gets smoother up to a point.


Mick

Originally Posted by MickR

I used to shave off an 8000 (shaved off a 6000 as well, but don't recommend it), but it is nicer to shave off higher grit finishes. It gets smoother up to a point.

Agreed, but at the same time different stones will give a different feel. eg. some people say that a 16k shapton isn't as nice as a 12k naniwa. and others will say that the 0.5um diamond spray is to harsh and then use a 0.5um CrOx. Both being 0.5um but the CrOx isn't as harsh on the blade and then some will go back to a stone again. I know one of the guys even finishes with a gold polish! (and so the list goes on) Its something that you could spend your whole life trying to prefect to get the perfect blade.

This is why we recommend that you send it to a honemaster as he would have had many years experimenting and each honemaster has there own ways of doing things. But i can guarantee that you will get a good edge from one of the honemasters, one that you wont be able to get for a long time.

Personally i would only be using your 8k, seeing how it shaves then using your 0.5um and 0.25um diamond spray, But that's only because i haven't had the need to use 1um. I have some on order though.

I am still a beginner but i can get a nice shave ready blade with not too much trouble, I now have 25+ stones + 4 strops (25 stones is nothing compared to what the pros would have lol). I have watched a lot of videos and have spoken to a lot of the guys. I have had 1 blade professional honed so i new what i was looking for when i was honing my blades and since have purchased a few blades that were sent professionally honed.

Harshness is something that is talked about a lot on here and different members have there methods to remove that. Whether it be stones or compounds they strop with to correct that harshness. A good blade will shave like a hot knife through butter.

GEtting an escher now is a good idea or a bad one?

Who you talkin' at Brighty?? I hone my own and don't get any higher than 12k (ish). I'm one of those that think paste is for your teeth...And for gluing little bits of paper together, or even for slapping down thickly on bread with a good serving of honey on top...
I know it's a fickle area open to individual interpretation, but-cha gotta draw a line somewhere haven't cha?!

Mick

Originally Posted by MickR

Who you talkin' at Brighty??

LOL Just trying to open his mind a little, to all the possibilities and how deep this can actually go

Originally Posted by q31

GEtting an escher now is a good idea or a bad one?

Most likely good but i haven't used one and they aren't cheap! Wait for a reply from someone who has used one. Ask Mick what he finishes on.

I'm fairly sure onimaru55 uses jnats, I'm playing with jnats now but also have the naniwa and shapton stones.

The c12k gives a nice edge and is a cheap stone too but it takes some prep work to get it 100%