Thanks a lot, I'm gonna take today off but I'll go back at it again tomorrow trying your techniques. Anything I can do during the shave about the "pulling" feeling that I get mainly on the chin or should I just try stropping it better and see how it goes? Because I generally do shorter strokes on the chin than cheeks because of the pulling. Or should I just not do the chin at all for a while until I get the technique down better?