Thread: L'Occitane Cade Plisson Brush

Good price on a well-respected synthetic:

Cade Shaving Brush Plisson | L'OCCITANE en Provence | United States

Cheers, Steve

Those have been discontinued. The same knot is available from vendors and Plisson, but for much more money.

That is a good price. I just bought one from a L'Occitane retail outlet in Canada for $58 CAD.

Bob

its definitely worth to 50 bucks. great brush.

Originally Posted by dexter90723

its definitely worth to 50 bucks. great brush.

Jury is out on that one for me at least. It works alright but I prefer a little more backbone in a synthetic like the Simpsons Chubby2 synthetic has. The Plisson reminds me a bit of the soft synthetic make up brushes the wife was looking at but not that soft.

Bob

Yep, it has a reputation for being very soft, but folks say it works very well in spite of it. But at $30 I figure I can sell it for that down the road if I don't like it. I'm fond of a little backbone too, so this will be an experiment for me.

Cheers, Steve

Originally Posted by Steve56

Yep, it has a reputation for being very soft, but folks say it works very well in spite of it. But at $30 I figure I can sell it for that down the road if I don't like it. I'm fond of a little backbone too, so this will be an experiment for me.

Cheers, Steve

Yes, at that price that would be exactly what I'd do any why also. For me I just might keep mine for the days when you just want the luxury of a plush pillow to face lather with. It fits that niche nicely. Have you used a synthetic before or is this your first go at one?

Bob

I have a Muhle 21mm STF that seems to be quite a good brush. It feels great and makes good lather. I don't think most synth brushes are quite there yet, but they are good. I'm guessing that the synthetic fibers have the same coefficient of torsion (springiness) along the entire fiber while a badger hair is stiff at the base and soft at the tip. I'm also going to guess that v3 of the synthetic fibers will be like this.

Cheers, Steve

Originally Posted by BobH

Yes, at that price that would be exactly what I'd do any why also. For me I just might keep mine for the days when you just want the luxury of a plush pillow to face lather with. It fits that niche nicely. Have you used a synthetic before or is this your first go at one?

Bob

Originally Posted by Steve56

I have a Muhle 21mm STF that seems to be quite a good brush. It feels great and makes good lather. I don't think most synth brushes are quite there yet, but they are good. I'm guessing that the synthetic fibers have the same coefficient of torsion (springiness) along the entire fiber while a badger hair is stiff at the base and soft at the tip. I'm also going to guess that v3 of the synthetic fibers will be like this.

Cheers, Steve

If by not quite there yet you mean mimicking a badger silver tip you are right and I don't think they will ever totally duplicate a badger silver tip. I just accept them as an entirely different class/type of knot that are now good enough to stand on their own merits.

The interesting thing about synthetic fibers is that they can be improved as time goes by by altering the characteristics of the individual fibers, as you mentioned. The changes in characteristics can be very uniform from brush to brush and lot to lot in a controlled manufacturing process. Try getting consistent improvements in badger hair fiber through a breeding program. Good luck with that.

Anyway, I think synthetics have just begun to hit their stride and will improve over time. Enjoy your Plisson.

Bob

Thanks Bob,

I agree 100%. Synthetic fibers are really in their infancy and I look forward to better and better brushes. They can, or soon will be able to stand with badger I think, with no apologies. I just brought up the comparison to illustrate that I believed they currently have a uniform spring constant along the fiber. One complaint is that they can sling lather, and that's what made me think the fibers are uniform. BTW, my Muhle STF v2 doesn't seem to exhibit this behavior, or at least not much.

They are still a ways off from replacing a Simpson Chubby's "wall of badger" feeling though!

Cheers, Steve