Thread: Oumo Brush

They pretty much said it all, synthetic can't compare to Badger. As to the "disadvantages" of Badger over synthetic I don't see big issues with caring for it at all.

It's just if you use it for travel the synthetic will dry much faster and that is a plus, I guess.

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Confucius say, "man who shave with synthetic brush get synthetic shave".

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Confucius say ...

... this line is not synthetic.

In Chemistry, synthesis is used for many good reasons.
Speed, precision, cost, performance.
This is a fact, not an argument.

Synthesis makes it possible to produce better materials.
With the same mechanical capacity, at lower price.
At the same price, for superior mechanical capabilities.
This is a fact, not an argument.

The rest is a matter of perception and suggestion.
A personal preference, in the realm of YMMV.
This is a fact, not an argument.

Well, when it comes to some things I agree but with others not so.

Wool is still the best at keeping you warm under all conditions and cotton if well made is the most comfortable to wear and I have never heard someone say any synthetic brush works better than a GOOD badger brush. Most arguments come from vegans or folks who use boar or horse or travel a lot or who use inexpensive meaning cheap badgers.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

... I have never heard someone say any synthetic brush works better than a GOOD badger brush.

What is a good one for you? What is the price?
As above, synths are great about q/p ratio.
And the consistent and predictable performance.
That is better. For sure IMHO.

If you want quality you have to pay for it.
Sure, synthetics are cheaper but if the performance is lacking what does the price matter. You be talking about an item if cared for can last decades. Figure the price per shave and it's pennies.
Do you think a good badger has unpredictable performance? I can use my simpson Manchurian Chubby three for anything and it performs perfectly. My Simpson Chubby 2 Synthetic quite honestly sucks with many hard soaps and it doesn't hold water which is a defect synthetics have.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

If you want quality you have to pay for it.
Sure, synthetics are cheaper but if the performance is lacking what does the price matter. You be talking about an item if cared for can last decades. Figure the price per shave and it's pennies.
Do you think a good badger has unpredictable performance? I can use my simpson Manchurian Chubby three for anything and it performs perfectly. My Simpson Chubby 2 Synthetic quite honestly sucks with many hard soaps and it doesn't hold water which is a defect synthetics have.

Man you got to try the g7 synthetic knot I think you'll be pleasantly surprised I had a hard time telling it wasnt badger. Check out frank shave g7 line or ds cosmetic g7 line.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Do you think a good badger has unpredictable performance?

This is a fact, not an argument.
Mother Nature has not specs about materials ...

Just buy the same model of the same brand, one a year for a decade.
In the end, they'll be ten similar badgers or boars or horses. Not equals.

Synths are predictable and constant in production specs.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

If you want quality you have to pay for it.
Sure, synthetics are cheaper but if the performance is lacking what does the price matter.

Synths are as naturals. Can be cheap, and can be high-end.
Just the bigger source make the price leveled down. Not performance.
I think you need to update your knowledge.

It depends how you define high end. A good badger, you are looking at $200 easy and it goes up from there. A synthetic Shavmac or Simpson is around $100 for a top of the line. I guess you could commission some independent maker and spend plenty for a synthetic but you'd be spending for some exotic handle or the name of the maker.

Sure synthetics are consistent in production spec. It's all man made so it's easy. Natural hair no matter the animal changes from animal to animal and season to season and year to year. But that's what is great about naturals. That's not a bad point it's a positive like a leather jacket. Each one is different. I guess you could have a plastic one and each will be an exact duplicate if that's what you want.