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    I have read that they eat badger in China. The harvesting of the fur is not the sole purpose. As far as cruelty, here in our kind Christian culture the way that cows, pigs, and chickens are treated to produce dinner is not very pretty either. Being a carnivore and a lover of badger brushes I don't concern myself with where the hair came from or the chicken in my sandwich or how either got there. YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH-AD View Post
    I have read that they eat badger in China.
    I'm happy to know that. At least they don't get cought just for the fur.
    Also, I'm against animal hunting, if they're endangered species.

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH-AD View Post
    Being a carnivore and a lover of badger brushes I don't concern myself with where the hair came from or the chicken in my sandwich or how either got there. YMMV.
    I love meat too and I love my Rooney badger brush, but I'm against animal cruelty. If an animal is going to die to supply food for the human kind, then that must be done the quickest and painless way possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon View Post
    I'm happy to know that. At least they don't get cought just for the fur.
    Also, I'm against animal hunting, if they're endangered species.



    I love meat too and I love my Rooney badger brush, but I'm against animal cruelty. If an animal is going to die to supply food for the human kind, then that must be done the quickest and painless way possible.
    I agree, In an ideal world that might be the way it is but in this world even human life is not regarded with great respect. My point however ill expressed was that many show great concern with a badger being killed for the hair but eat animals without giving a thought to how they got on the plate in front of them. If I were more idealistic I might be a total vegan but I am not and I don't apologize for it. As CS Lewis pointed out in The Problem of Pain the creator made a world in which most creatures survive by preying on other living creatures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH-AD View Post
    I agree, In an ideal world that might be the way it is but in this world even human life is not regarded with great respect. My point however ill expressed was that many show great concern with a badger being killed for the hair but eat animals without giving a thought to how they got on the plate in front of them. If I were more idealistic I might be a total vegan but I am not and I don't apologize for it. As CS Lewis pointed out in The Problem of Pain the creator made a world in which most creatures survive by preying on other living creatures.
    I think most creatures lack the capacity to realize they are doing it though. Oh well going to bed now...good thing I didn't watch that video again or I'd have nightmares gahhh. If it is the same as the one here JLoDown.com >> J. Lo is Low Down: Animals are Skinned Alive for Their Fur (graphic)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehurt View Post
    I think most creatures lack the capacity to realize they are doing it though. Oh well going to bed now...good thing I didn't watch that video again or I'd have nightmares gahhh. If it is the same as the one here JLoDown.com >> J. Lo is Low Down: Animals are Skinned Alive for Their Fur (graphic)
    Yeah, only humans do it for the pure pleasure of it. I have never watched that video. It was offered up on another shaving forum months ago and I knew that it wouldn't be pretty. I don't want to do that to myself. Same as the "Faces of Death" movies. I have never watched one of them. I have seen a few people die up close and that was enough for me. BTW, welcome to SRP.
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    If it's any consolation, badgers themselves are not vegetarians. They are omnivores just like most of us. I grew up on a farm and one of my jobs (and sole source of income) was trapping pocket gophers. The amount of crop damage they cause is minimal but their mounds can damage farm equipment. Worse, the badgers would dig holes sometime two or three feet across and just as deep while trying to catch a pocket gopher for their own reasons. Dropping a piece of farm equipment into a badger hole could, and did, cause severe damage. While it's not a reason to kill them, badgers are extremely vicious critters. Any means of killing them cannot involve getting anywhere near them.

    I used to get $0.50 bounty for a pair of gopher feet. Depending on the time of year, I could get $5 to $25 for a badger pelt. Also, badger pretty much tastes like raccoon.

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    Humans have assumed the role of stewards over the entire food chain. Whether it is admitted or not, we are responsible for the animals we raise for slaughter for food or for vanity (ie. minks). I eat meat and love it. The cows and pigs I eat may be mistreated but they are certainly not flayed alive. In the video the animal is still alive and conscious as it is being skinned. That is pointlessly torturing the creature. Not only does it cause the animal obvious agony, the man has to stop his work to wrestle with the struggling critter. There are many ways to quickly dispatch the animal that would not damage the pelt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehurt View Post
    good thing I didn't watch that video again or I'd have nightmares gahhh. If it is the same as the one here JLoDown.com >> J. Lo is Low Down: Animals are Skinned Alive for Their Fur (graphic)
    Call me a sissy, but I can't watch this kind of videos - it makes me sick.

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