Thread: An Act of Rebellion!

Can't say that I rebelled much. I am more of a pragmatist. I see far too many people who take their principles to stupid extremes, just out of principle
My principle is to go through life like a knife through water, causing as little waves as possible.
Doesn't mean that I never take a stance on anything. I just tend to not be 'in your face' about it.

Originally Posted by Bruno

Doesn't mean that I never take a stance on anything. I just tend to not be 'in your face' about it.

You know, Bruno, there's an old saying (isn't there always? ) that this part of your post reminds me of. I was introduced to it when I first saw the original version of Disney's "The Parent Trap". In the film, the twins are at summer camp and don't know that they are sisters yet. A huge rivalry occurs that ends in the two girls being scolded by the head counselor. Her response to what happened is to reference an old song titled "Let The Punishment Fit The Crime".

I believe that under certain circumstances, a bold and brazen approach is best, while other times an amount of discretion will suffice.

I also agree that a lot of people tend to hold onto a belief just because it's what they believe, having given the matter no thought or consideration. IMO, an informed decision is a wise decision.

Fair play I take my hat off to your Mother she's one super mother and a great parent, but I very much doubt if most other parents would react in the same manner as your Mother, I know for certain my Mother wouldn't and definitely no other member of my family, give your Mam a big hug from me.

Jamie.

Originally Posted by Bruno

Can't say that I rebelled much. I am more of a pragmatist. I see far too many people who take their principles to stupid extremes, just out of principle
My principle is to go through life like a knife through water, causing as little waves as possible.
Doesn't mean that I never take a stance on anything. I just tend to not be 'in your face' about it.

Originally Posted by crouton976

You know, Bruno, there's an old saying (isn't there always? ) that this part of your post reminds me of. I was introduced to it when I first saw the original version of Disney's "The Parent Trap". In the film, the twins are at summer camp and don't know that they are sisters yet. A huge rivalry occurs that ends in the two girls being scolded by the head counselor. Her response to what happened is to reference an old song titled "Let The Punishment Fit The Crime".

I believe that under certain circumstances, a bold and brazen approach is best, while other times an amount of discretion will suffice.

I also agree that a lot of people tend to hold onto a belief just because it's what they believe, having given the matter no thought or consideration. IMO, an informed decision is a wise decision.

I see where you guys are coming from but my wife and I have an old saying too lol. And that is "sometimes you have to kill a cockroach with an atomic bomb."

That's not so say you have to be an absolute A-Bomb thrower every time something happens that you disagree with... but in my limited experience, I have found that sometimes... ok most of the time, you have to be over the top extreme as people just take and take. They are like children. If you tell them not to touch the beans when out grocery shopping, then they'll touch the corn. Then you have to tell them to not touch the corn etc, etc. Sometimes it's just a whole lot easier to tell them to not touch anything!

Of course one has to be careful when using power. Preemptive strikes can make people look even more stupid and can create an environment where respect is forever lost... like invading a country before they use their weapons of mass destruction that turn out to not exist at all... though fortunately I guess, people have short attention spans and forget so again... sometimes killing a cockroach with an A-Bomb is more effective lol !

I just got to thinking about the many ways to deal with a situation that you want to face and derail. It can only occur when you are face to face and the other person is espousing a limited, biased and hateful concept. Start out with quiet concern. Slowly draw them out as to their beliefs. Start countering with middle of the road responses. They will think they have an appreciative ear in you. Start obfuscating the conversation with increasingly difficult vocabulary and they will start to agree with you because now they don't want to appear stupid (duh!). At that point you can start to show them the errors of their way and how they have just showed themselves to be stupid, ignorant, prejudiced SOBs. And then, as you make your get away, rapidly in some situations, inform of the fact that they just agreed with you that they are a complete idiot and in general a genuine f__khead. And if you can do it, and live to tell the tale, in front of their dearest friends. And then run for your life.

Originally Posted by crouton976

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Flash forward to several days after my return from suspension. I was still pretty ill that the school had implemented such a nonsensical rule, supported by no real logic and had punished me for voicing a dissent. After all, a slew of makeshift weapons were at every students beck and call. I decided to protest the dress code by wearing a dress to school. I made sure it fell within the guidelines of the dress code, such as not having spaghetti straps, certain length, etc. and also made sure the dress code didn't specifically prohibit males wearing a dress. It did not.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I once arrested a lady in a dress, took her to the ladies jail; she turned out to be a man,,,sort of the same thing??,,,no,,,,maybe????

Originally Posted by Hirlau

I once arrested a lady in a dress, took her to the ladies jail; she turned out to be a man,,,sort of the same thing??,,,no,,,,maybe????

Nah, that dude was just cruisin' for chicks... I've heard that in general pop, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Sounds like the guy was a forward thinker?

Originally Posted by crouton976

An added bonus was that I got to be on a first name basis with all of the administrators as well as several of the teachers.

If you wore a dress & a chain wallet they might have nicknamed you Gogo Yubari.

Originally Posted by onimaru55

If you wore a dress & a chain wallet they might have nicknamed you Gogo Yubari.

Well played, sir, well played.

I could also have worn a yellow jump suit and then 3 inch punched my way out of a locker.

In high school I had a detention session after school one day (to many tardy days) and I had an agreement with the admin. that I could leave 10 minutes early so as to make it to a college credit drafting class at Rockwell International. Well I was reading/taking notes/etc. when this major commotion broke out. I wasn't sure at the time what happened but the admin. left and another showed up about 5 minutes later. He informed everyone they would be staying an extra half hour and to be silent. After a time I went up and told him of my agreement with the other admin but he said no and go sit down. I quietly told him I would be leaving and walked back to my seat. When the time came I got up and walked toward the door. Just as I got to the opening he made the grand loud statement if front of everyone that I was going to be punished if I walked out that door. I stopped and looked him in the eye and said "big deal' and walked out. Now when I got home I explained the whole thing to my father and he said I should have just walked out saying nothing. Low and behold 15 minutes into the next day I get called to the office. Kids that were in the detention were leaving crying and others waiting for their turn. Lucky me ( and maybe because I was standing when his door opened) I was asked right in to the principals office. He asked me my version and I told him my perspective of the situation. He said I had to be punished and was calling my father which he did. I remember him asking my father if he knew what happened and then the principle told him I was going to be suspended for my actions. It was silent for some time and I swear the principal began to cry before he got off the phone with my Dad. I got 1 day when all the others involved got a week. I never asked my Dad what he said to that guy but he had a way of speaking the truth that could make you feel 2' tall. He also made a visit to that school 2 weeks before I was supposed to graduate. I don't think I was going to because I hated reading literature and novel class put me to sleep. I just couldn't do it. Once again he came though for me and I wore the funky hat 2 weeks later. I never asked him how he did that either :<0) 2 things I learned. Rebellion may prove a point very well and may also cause you some trouble. I see the trouble worth it if for no other reason than to vent your frustration. The other is that a calm demeanor and some simple logic can also go a long way. Complacency is a word I have come to hate and I believe it is the reason this country is in the shape it is. I would start a grass roots movement to end complacency for ever but nobody else cares :<0)