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But they MADE him eat those Big Macs. It's big business and their evil mind control machines that are at fault here.

Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

A part blame DOES lie with the junk/fast food industry. The way they advertise and what they serve is attrocious.

Hideous advertising practices have nothing to do with it. The quality of the food has little to do with it.

If any blame deserves to be leveled and the fast food industry it is the increase in portion sizes over the last fifty years. But then, most regular restaurants are guilty of the same thing. Why no mention of them?

Part blame huh? Why then does this "part blame" get more attention than all other reasons combined? Say "obesity" and the word "McDonalds" is sure to be mentioned within seconds. Yet not one word is uttered about how people are consuming ungodly amounts of food.

This all goes toward one thing. People don't want to take responsibility for their own actions. It is soooooo much easier to assign blame to someone or something else. "Oh, I weigh 400 pounds! It must be Burger King's fault that I eat 3000 calories in one sitting and then don't exercise."

And before anyone says anything else.... I know what I am talking about. I've battled obesity my entire life. And guess where the blame lies? Me. Nowhere else.

Originally Posted by Scrapyard Ape

This all goes toward one thing. People don't want to take responsibility for their own actions. It is soooooo much easier to assign blame to someone or something else. "Oh, I weigh 400 pounds! It must be Burger King's fault that I eat 3000 calories in one sitting and then don't exercise."

And before anyone says anything else.... I know what I am talking about. I've battled obesity my entire life. And guess where the blame lies? Me. Nowhere else.

Blame is easier to give than to receive ---- plus you really can't sue yourself for ungodly amounts of money.


Justin

I am not saying that the consumer isn't to blame. But when they get the kids hooked to junk food from the earliest age and junk food companies like Coca Cola and Pepsi arrange for exclusive contracts to peddle their junk in schools, is it really a wonder that your average fat Joe considers it a part of his life?

Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

I am not saying that the consumer isn't to blame. But when they get the kids hooked to junk food from the earliest age and junk food companies like Coca Cola and Pepsi arrange for exclusive contracts to peddle their junk in schools, is it really a wonder that your average fat Joe considers it a part of his life?

Let's examine what you just wrote here. You began your post with "I am not saying that the consumer isn't to blame." yet go on absolve the consumer of any blame in the rest of your post.

. But when they get the kids hooked to junk food from the earliest age...

Once again.... all focus on the producer of the item. Not one letter dedicated to the parents who allow their children to eat and drink whatever they get their hands on.

...and junk food companies like Coca Cola and Pepsi arrange for exclusive contracts to peddle their junk in schools

Let's see... the company deserves ALL the ire for this. Never mind that those contracts are drawn up and signed by TWO parties, not just the vendors. Again, not one letter of venom toward the school boards who put their signatures on those contracts.

Selective finger pointing won't solve any problems.

School boards and consumers are to blame but you are attempting to place all of the blame on the consumer and none of the big corporations peddling that junk. School boards are also stupid for allowing this and in most cases for having nutritionally attrocious caf food.
Actually I believe that the solution to the problem lies in proper upbringing...
1) The only thing that vending machines in schools should be selling are 100% fruit juices and water.
2) Parents have to stop serving their kids with junk food at homes
3) Our governments should invest more into athletic programs for kids instead of cancelling gym class
4) At least 25% of a mandatory course for every year of schooling from grades 1 to 10 should involve proper nutrition
5) Don't take kids to junk food restaurants or if you do, not more often than 4 times a year
If we kill the demand for junk, the corporate world will have to re-consider the offerings.

Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

School boards and consumers are to blame but you are attempting to place all of the blame on the consumer and none of the big corporations peddling that junk. School boards are also stupid for allowing this and in most cases for having nutritionally attrocious caf food.
Actually I believe that the solution to the problem lies in proper upbringing...
1) The only thing that vending machines in schools should be selling are 100% fruit juices and water.
2) Parents have to stop serving their kids with junk food at homes
3) Our governments should invest more into athletic programs for kids instead of cancelling gym class
4) At least 25% of a mandatory course for every year of schooling from grades 1 to 10 should involve proper nutrition
5) Don't take kids to junk food restaurants or if you do, not more often than 4 times a year
If we kill the demand for junk, the corporate world will have to re-consider the offerings.

Wow tells us how you really feel

I gave good working solutions. However all parties will come up with excuses..
Parents: I can't control what my kids are eating or police them all the time
Governments: We have to invest in boosting our economy and fighting terrorism
Schools: Gym classes are expensive and synthetic junk is cheaper than real food
Guess what's going to happen to our population in a decade or two.

Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

School boards and consumers are to blame but you are attempting to place all of the blame on the consumer and none of the big corporations peddling that junk. School boards are also stupid for allowing this and in most cases for having nutritionally attrocious caf food.

Wrong. Re read what I have written. I have pointed out that you are engaging in selective finger pointing. I have not removed any blame from corporations(I did say that consumers deserve a much bigger slice of the blame than they currently get) I have also said that if you are going to place blame, place it on ALL who deserve it.

Actually I believe that the solution to the problem lies in proper upbringing...
1) The only thing that vending machines in schools should be selling are 100% fruit juices and water.
2) Parents have to stop serving their kids with junk food at homes
3) Our governments should invest more into athletic programs for kids instead of cancelling gym class
4) At least 25% of a mandatory course for every year of schooling from grades 1 to 10 should involve proper nutrition
5) Don't take kids to junk food restaurants or if you do, not more often than 4 times a year
If we kill the demand for junk, the corporate world will have to re-consider the offerings.

And just how are you going to enforce these? Especially 2 and 5. Also please state what penalty you would impose for violating these rules.

I don't think (maybe I've missed something) we're even considering the lack of exercise that kids get today --- whose going to regulate that. When I was a kid you couldn't keep me in one place -- - I was always active ----very little TV and no video games. I think a lot of this could be solve by turning the computer, TV, and video games off. It's all a little bit more complex than fast/poor food.


Justin