perhaps some of this needs to be split off into a "crazy constitution thread" .... the 3/5 clause was included as a political expediency to get the rest of the thing passed. the hope was that with the end of importation of slaves in 1803 slavery would "wither away" that being said, most of my ancestors where lining in Europe until 1912, and rural peasants in Europe were living in a utopian society back then, most were for all intents bound to the land and the landlord with no provision for their needs, in many ways slavery was better than that.

but that is not the purpose of this thread or so I thought.

in my perfect world one would be free to do other exactly whatever you chose, knowing also that others have the right to do that to you. each then is fully respocible for their actions and the reprisals others may take, my thought is after a couple of years the bloodshed would end and society would be better off for it.

enjoy,
jim