Thread: The world I would love to live in.

I don't want this to be political, but invariably it will be. I also don't want to start an argument, but maybe a debate. Once you move to arguing, I feel people shut down their brains and won't budge or considering someone else's point.

I think people are inherently good or always want to be. Sure, there are always a few bad apples, but most everyone is naturally good. I base my entire view of the world on this opinion. I also think anyone who SEEKS out power has something inherently wrong with them.

The U.S. has become more and more restrictive in my mind and people seem to buy into making illegal what they don't like. We try to litigate morality. Everything should be legal except if you are directly harming another person or their property. Gun, drugs, marriage, religion, etc.... It should all be allowed unless you are directly harming another person. By harm I don't mean "Oh you have emotionally scarred me by walking around with a pistol on your hip. I am scared."; I mean direct, real harm.

We as a people need to take responsibility for ourselves. I would rather live in a more "dangerous" world than deal with government having their hand in everything. They are taking our freedom and not giving anything in return. You cannot stop evil people from doing evil things completely. If we put people on the moon you can't stop someone from hurting others just by taking away means of doing harm.

I have more to say on the subject, but I'll leave it at that for now.

We live in a complex world and often times good intentions or no intentions have unintended consequences. Of course no one is guaranteed peace and safety. You can die any time of a multitude of reasons no matter what the Govt does or doesn't do.

Just consider if it was you who lost a loved one or good friend through some senseless act how you would feel about it.

I agree with you bigspendur. I am not only talking about just the senseless violence we see in society, but also the way people tend to feel they deserve freedoms but not their neighbors. I think you reap what you sow and if we sow good things and letting people be free we will get better things out of society. For example; it truly irks me to hear someone preach pro-gun but anti marriage equality and vice versa. We can either endorse freedom as a whole or decided to be a society that takes away freedoms. If, as of tomorrow, there was no more laws I would not go on a rampage... I would go to work same as usual.

The world I would like to live in today is the one I was born into in 1948 back when Americans had Morals and strong work ethics.
Familys would actually sit down and eat dinner as a family,No fast food, no 300 lb 10 yr olds suckin down slurppys all day in the mall.
Guns? hell yes we had a gun cabinant full of guns (unlocked) My dads edict always was to the kids, you open that cabinant, you will be dawg meat.
Anti abortion/pro abortion was never an issue,women had the babys, they kept them or sent them out to be adopted.
Men getting married to men/women to women did not exsist,live and let live,I can give a rats Azz who you marry.
Immigrants were wellcome,hard working folk that would become Americans after going thru the process.
This country/this world has gone to hell in a hand basket and I do not like it

Well I would have to disagree with Pixelfixed to a degree. I don't think that "golden age" ever actually existed. Society and people (me included) have a tendancy to look back and forget the bad aspects and remember the good. That period of time is very often thought of as a golden age in the USA. We had just fought the biggest war in history and won, we were the top producers of goods in the world and our word was pretty much law. However, on the other hand you had hundreds of thousands of veterans returning home trying thier damdest to be "normal" and have a "normal" life. I don't think anyone here can say that someone who served years in the miltary watching most of his friends die around him and killing anyone trying to do the same to him or his friends isn't going to be have a huge PTSD issue when they got home.

People complian about the 60s and 70s and how the lack of morals has led the USA (and the rest of the world to an extent) down a wicked road. While it should not be entirely to blame, the households / families that were established in the 40s are the ones who raised the "trouble makers" in the 60s and 70s.

Hundreds of thousands of vets did come home and did very well, PTSD was not invented intil after the Vietnam debacle.

I think at the core of things most of us wants pretty much the same from life and the world we live in.
What differs is the way to such a goal

For me, being from a different culture and part of the world, my thoughts on how to get there differs somewhat from most of you lads.

For the last 4 years I have served as president in the building community where my family and I reside.
In that period I have been hailed both as a saint and bielsebub.
For doing the very same thing!
A simple thing as removing a three that was blocking the sun on the deck for one resident was a blessing for him, and at the same time a totally horrendous act for the fella next door who enjoyed relaxing in the shade underneath it on warm days.
There just ain't no way to please all

A petty little thing like trying to find common ground for 152 households proved to be darn hard work and sometimes simply impossible.
Imagine doing the same in a nation of 300 millions...
That is one big ol' pile of opinions and desires

The term PTSD wasn't coined, the issues that are described by the phrase are as old as humanity.

Originally Posted by MattCB

Well I would have to disagree with Pixelfixed to a degree. I don't think that "golden age" ever actually existed. Society and people (me included) have a tendancy to look back and forget the bad aspects and remember the good. That period of time is very often thought of as a golden age in the USA. We had just fought the biggest war in history and won, we were the top producers of goods in the world and our word was pretty much law. However, on the other hand you had hundreds of thousands of veterans returning home trying thier damdest to be "normal" and have a "normal" life. I don't think anyone here can say that someone who served years in the miltary watching most of his friends die around him and killing anyone trying to do the same to him or his friends isn't going to be have a huge PTSD issue when they got home.

People complian about the 60s and 70s and how the lack of morals has led the USA (and the rest of the world to an extent) down a wicked road. While it should not be entirely to blame, the households / families that were established in the 40s are the ones who raised the "trouble makers" in the 60s and 70s.

Are we assuming you are Pixies age and lived during that time ? Just askin.

Originally Posted by MattCB

While it should not be entirely to blame, the households / families that were established in the 40s are the ones who raised the "trouble makers" in the 60s and 70s.

You can still raise a person right and they can still turn into Jeffery Daughmer .....Doesn't neccessarily make it your fault. Not trying to start an argument with you but just seeing the other side .