Thread: The world I would love to live in.

Pardon me if I stay out of this one. I was also born in 1948.

Best saying I have heard in quite some time about America today..

"Everybody has a Right, Nobody has a Responsibility"

That one deserves a bit of thinking

I actually work as a Human Rights Officer in my facility for the developmentally disabled. I try very hard to harp on that; they are intertwined in every aspect. I may actually steal your quote for the next group meeting.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Best saying I have heard in quite some time about America today..

"Everybody has a Right, Nobody has a Responsibility"

That one deserves a bit of thinking

I grew up in a time when the pledge of allegiance to the flag meant the exact same thing to the vast majority of Americans. The vast majority no longer exists. There are far too many different ideologies today for the majority to exist at all. The more diverse our thoughts, the greater the divide separating our common ground.

Unity is a thing of the past, conflict of interest has destroyed unity in our society. We are therefore doomed by the inconsistency of our diverse beliefs. I am glad I am as old as I am. Farewell.................

Originally Posted by ncraigtrn

I'm probably the youngest one to post so far.(24)

I have to say that I'm most worried for my generation and the following generation. When you look at those most greatly impacted by the shape the world is taking on is us. And to be honest we are the least politically motivated group of Americans. We are pigheaded and are lead around by whatever is on the internet or our cellphones.

If you think society is tough now what will it be when the youth at gray haired and leading the world. Its sad. We try and educate. Try to create open mindedness. But the simple fact is we(my generation) are largely media driven. Not saying that others are not. But when you take into account what we are fed through the media and interwebs now compared to even 10 years ago its not good.

I agree whole heartedly with equality. But in that same line of thought its not OK to have your own standards or morals.

Gay marriage, legalized marijuana, anti gun laws(Cali), tattoos and body modification, abortions etc. Are now not just OK but encouraged. And to disagree is to discriminate. I personally am not for the majority of it but I fault no one for the decisions they make with their life. But I stand true to what I believe and that's not OK.

I hope this doesn't offend anyone as this is not my Intent but I would prefer a world void of homosexuality, drugs and body modification. When I have kids I will teach them what is right and wrong according to what I believe. But I will also teach tolerance. God help anyone who comes between me and my family and what we believe. Do what you will but don't take away what I want MY WORLD(the things which are within my control to be).

With that said I love each and everyone of you guys.

Why?

Because not one person is worthy of hate.

Maybe I'm a mixed bag of nuts. I dunno. Just seems like there could be a world where we can all practice what we believe without forcing it on anyone else.

So, if one of your children turned out to be a tattooed, gay hippy, would you tolerate, or love them?
Sorry if that is a bit direct, and blunt, but i just wondered? I agree that you are entitled to your views, and your right to defend those views, provided that your defence of those views does not harm others.
From my point of view i only object to ignorance, and that isnt directed at anyone here.

"I hope this doesn't offend anyone as this is not my Intent but I would prefer a world void of homosexuality..."

ncraigtrn, the only way I can imagine this happening is by "voiding" the world of homosexuals. I can't see that ending well for my immediate family members and loved friends who are gay, not to mention their own families. Not that it couldn't be done; genocide has a venerable history and often succeeds. Of course, in this case, it would have to be reaccomplished with each generation.

Originally Posted by edhewitt

So, if one of your children turned out to be a tattooed, gay hippy, would you tolerate, or love them?
Sorry if that is a bit direct, and blunt, but i just wondered? I agree that you are entitled to your views, and your right to defend those views, provided that your defence of those views does not harm others.
From my point of view i only object to ignorance, and that isnt directed at anyone here.

I don't know. I can speculate but what good is that?

Half of me would have. Huge issue. The other would love them as my child. But I don't think toleration and love have to do with each other.

Not gonna get into this to much but there are people in my life who I don't have anything to o with because they are living a life I don't agree with and more importantly they don't agree with mine. So because I choose not to be around them does that mean I don't love them?

I guess I'd say if I raised my kids and taught them what I believe is right and wrong and they grow up to make life decisions that are contrary to how they were raised. I'd let them I'd even love them but, i wont embrace certain lifestyles just because they're my kids.

See this is my point. This thread is open for anyone to share what they wanna see in the world. But because my ideology doesn't make someone happy I need to be convinced of the errors of my thinking?

Let me say this again. We are all entitled to our thoughts and opinions.

We have to be very careful when talking about gun laws here, it is effectively a banned topic. A thread such as this is going to get people opposing each others view points, and there is nothing wrong with that, however by simply prefixing a statement with "i hope i dont offend anyone" wond make a viewpoint any less agreeable to someone who has a wildly differing view, and when such prefixes are used it is because we know that peole could be offended by it.

I'm not sure what it is like in America but I don't think our societies are two dissimilar. I have heard it say that Britain gets the same problems as America only 20 years later. I'm not sure how much I agree with that.

Honestly as society I just think we are too hung up about been seen to do the right thing and in by doing so the right thing doesn't get done.

As an example, here in Britain we have old people freezing to death in the winter because they can not afford the heating bills. This is not a one off it happens every single year. At the same time, as a country we hand out billions in foreign aid. Now don't get me wrong here I have empathy for my fellow human beings but surely we should make sure that the people here are taken care of first before we look after people living in a different country.

To me this a prime example of been seen to do the right thing and not actually doing the right thing.

We certainly do live in a messed up world at the moment !