Thread: The world I would love to live in.

Lol nothing like smoking your own brand of cigarette.

Some have describe very ideal worlds we would love to live in!

One thing I know is that it start with the man in the mirror.

When I look in the mirror and I don't like what I see, the selfishness, the greed, the un compassion, or any thing that doesn't make this world a better place, I ask and seek wisdom and conviction from a higher power. I do this every day of my life. The person I didn't like when I saw my self in the mirror start to die and the person I see that I like, is not me!

And this is how I believe, I'm helping to shape a better world to live in!

I agree that most people are inherently good and want to do good in their lives, and the world in general. Unfortunately, you are correct, there are some bad apples; people who are wired so differently as to confuse and confound the rest of us by their propensity for pure evil.

I don't see the pursuit of power as necessarily wrong. We all seek the power to control our own lives and destinies which is perfectly good and legitimate. Some of us seek administrative power because we think we could do a better job than the incumbent. I suppose power for powers sake could be seen as odd. Especially when said power might be wielded arbitrarily, and especially, as it may harm others.

When speaking of power in government, the United States was founded with rules/ laws designed to check that power. Designed such that power remained with and emanated from the sovereign people (the rightful arbiters of power) who consented to government only that amount of power necessary to achieve the greatest common good, and nothing more.

Unfortunately over one hundred years of progressive era ideology and policy has severely mucked and adulterated the system holistically, and has made it difficult, if not impossible, for many well meaning Americans to sort out the mess.

Just keep thinking, reading, and asking questions. You are on the correct path.

You might start, if you haven't already, by reading John Locke "Two Treaties of Government" and comparing to a study of the progressive era, especially President Woodrow Wilson and his views on natural law.

Originally Posted by Double0757

Some have describe very ideal worlds we would love to live in!

One thing I know is that it start with the man in the mirror.

When I look in the mirror and I don't like what I see, the selfishness, the greed, the un compassion, or any thing that doesn't make this world a better place, I ask and seek wisdom and conviction from a higher power. I do this every day of my life. The person I didn't like when I saw my self in the mirror start to die and the person I see that I like, is not me!

And this is how I believe, I'm helping to shape a better world to live in!

Everytime I look in the mirror..it cracks. Sheesh !

Originally Posted by honedright

I agree that most people are inherently good and want to do good in their lives, and the world in general. Unfortunately, you are correct, there are some bad apples; people who are wired so differently as to confuse and confound the rest of us by their propensity for pure evil.

I don't see the pursuit of power as necessarily wrong. We all seek the power to control our own lives and destinies which is perfectly good and legitimate. Some of us seek administrative power because we think we could do a better job than the incumbent. I suppose power for powers sake could be seen as odd. Especially when said power might be wielded arbitrarily, and especially, as it may harm others.

When speaking of power in government, the United States was founded with rules/ laws designed to check that power. Designed such that power remained with and emanated from the sovereign people (the rightful arbiters of power) who consented to government only that amount of power necessary to achieve the greatest common good, and nothing more.

Unfortunately over one hundred years of progressive era ideology and policy has severely mucked and adulterated the system holistically, and has made it difficult, if not impossible, for many well meaning Americans to sort out the mess.

Just keep thinking, reading, and asking questions. You are on the correct path.

You might start, if you haven't already, by reading John Locke "Two Treaties of Government" and comparing to a study of the progressive era, especially President Woodrow Wilson and his views on natural law.

Amen to that. Fundamentally, they believe that the average American isn't "smart enough" to know what's best for him or her and is moving us from a Country of independence to one of dependence. A Government that is big enough and powerful enough to give you everything you want is also big enough and powerful enough to take everything you have.

Frank

Yea folks want to go back to the 1800s when Govt was small and inconsequential. Unfortunately you need to take the good with the bad so while you're living in your isolated farmhouse in Nebraska not having to worry about the tax man or overreaching Govt or such complications as electricity or roads and your family falls ill with Cholera in the Winter and you all die well.....

Take a book out of the library and and find out what life was like for the common man in the good old days.

Was Government inconsequential in the 1800's? It may have been smaller, but inconsequential? I doubt it. Maybe government was less intrusive during the 1800's. Maybe elected representatives had more respect for the law in the 1800's.

And of course you take the good with the "bad" But just because you are willing to put up with a little bad in exchange for some good, that's no excuse to just pile on more bad in exchange for nothing.

I suspect if you woke up Monday morning and the federal Govt only could do what the Constitution says or implies it could do a lot of people would cheer. However, maybe 6 months or so down the road all you would hear from most of those same people is grumbling about all those things the Govt does that is taken for granted and not even given a thought to. All these things would cease.

In the 1800s to the average person living in rural areas the only realization the Govt even existed would be what they saw in the local newspaper when they went into town maybe once a month for provisions or what came over the telegraph or what was relayed by a traveler. To most they lived in an isolated environment and either the local sheriff (if they had one) or the occasional passing Army column was their exposure to Govt.

I don't think you should be insulting even if you strongly disagree with people's beliefs. You can say it in a nice, cordial way and also if you see something wrong; it's better not to leave, but to stay and try to improve the situation. Nothing will get better unless we put in the work to change ideas and how the world is. Also, I think if you read the entire thread many different viewpoints and paths are brought up. It is all over the place and that's the great thing: the exchange of ideas and opinions. I hope you stick around cause you gonna miss many wonderful people and things offered at SRP.

Originally Posted by aa1192

I don't think you should be insulting even if you strongly disagree with people's beliefs. You can say it in a nice, cordial way and also if you see something wrong; it's better not to leave, but to stay and try to improve the situation. Nothing will get better unless we put in the work to change ideas and how the world is. Also, I think if you read the entire thread many different viewpoints and paths are brought up. It is all over the place and that's the great thing: the exchange of ideas and opinions. I hope you stick around cause you gonna miss many wonderful people and things offered at SRP.

It's a great thing only if you can actually read the entire thread and all postings. We should concentrate less on "tolerating" one another and more on respecting one another and loving one another. Even if we disagree.

But again, those who preach tolerance are the least tolerant of different opinions.

Frank