Thread: UFOs

Originally Posted by Hirlau

Bob,,,, I doubt it was a UFO, for one single reason; if they have the technology to travel from planet to planet, galaxy to galaxy,,,, then there is not one single thing that would interest them on earth. I believe that Intelligent Life in this universe, wrote us off millions of years ago.

There is something called "The Zoo Hypothesis" essentially we are being monitored for study sake or to observe evolution progress as naturally as it will. Likewise we may be entertaining. The basis for this theory is our species frequently observes others in the wild without interfering for the sake of research. We also cage up animals and visit them on weekends for our sheer amusement. I don't doubt that if we had the technology for faster than light travel, that we wouldn't do the same to life on other planets. Keep in mind it wasn't until 1920 that gorillas were thought to be a legitimate animal. Until then they were touted as hoaxes, silly stories, or superstitions of savage natives. It's obtuse to assume something hasn't happened or that it does not exist simply because it is too far fetched to believe.
Human evolution is smaller than an ant fart when compared to the possible evolutionary duration of other civilizations in our own galaxy. Now with that in mind, our galaxy has over 100 billion stars in it. Now in the VISIBLE universe (which is very small) there are hundreds of billions of galaxies with hundreds of billions of stars in each galaxy, each with its own potential planetary systems. Even if the odds were fractions of a percent that there was civilization on some, the existing amount of civilizations is still in the hundreds of millions. Now if those planets were farther ahead than us in terms of intelligent life evolution it could be inconceivable. Humans have had 100 thousand years of evolution. If aliens had more time, oh, say the time dinosaurs had to evolve, 163 MILLION years, imagine what we could be capable of. If we spent 163 million years investing our efforts in the furthering of our civilization it is very possible we could travel to other planets and interact with life. Imagine if we didn't waste all our attention and money on crap like the kardashians, or athlete salaries, and focused that effort into going beyond our solar system.
Just note, there have been more advances in human knowledge and technology in the last 200 years, than the previous 98,000 combined, the majority of which were in the last hundred years. Likewise there has been 150 times more technological furtherance in this decade than the one before it. Our race is following exponential growth patterns. If we aren't wiped off the face of the planet before it is no longer habitable, we may very well be reaching out to other ends of the universe to further the human race. We branched out and took up all the space on this planet. Once we figure out how to get to other solar systems, I don't doubt we will do any different. We are already searching for habitable planets with the pitiful technology we do have. For that same reason, I believe intelligent life from other parts of the universe have been here.
It's very possible contact isn't widely made because we are no where near ready for that. If we approached our pre-evolutionary ancestors from 100,000 years ago in a plane, then got off, waved and started speaking English to them then showed them an iphone and tried explaining quantum physics, they would be terrified and very well feel threatened. There would be no telling what the reaction would be. We would be no different to an alien race.
I've spent a LOT of time in the wilderness in various parts of the world and seen some strange things moving in the sky that no man has any capability of being inside of. That being said bob, you probably saw a pocket of swamp gas

On a more serious note. I too have seen unexplainable lights. I think that mathematically we cannot be the only advanced life in the milky Way. And not the candy bar either Hirlau.

My friend Mr L says our entire planet and it's inhabitants were manufactured by advanced beings to serve as an intergalactic amusement park. They come here for RnR to observe and play with us.

So, in the end the joke is on us.

Originally Posted by Sic4531

There is something called "The Zoo Hypothesis" essentially we are being monitored for study sake or to observe evolution progress as naturally as it will. Likewise we may be entertaining. The basis for this theory is our species frequently observes others in the wild without interfering for the sake of research. We also cage up animals and visit them on weekends for our sheer amusement. I don't doubt that if we had the technology for faster than light travel, that we wouldn't do the same to life on other planets. Keep in mind it wasn't until 1920 that gorillas were thought to be a legitimate animal. Until then they were touted as hoaxes, silly stories, or superstitions of savage natives. It's obtuse to assume something hasn't happened or that it does not exist simply because it is too far fetched to believe.
Human evolution is smaller than an ant fart when compared to the possible evolutionary duration of other civilizations in our own galaxy. Now with that in mind, our galaxy has over 100 billion stars in it. Now in the VISIBLE universe (which is very small) there are hundreds of billions of galaxies with hundreds of billions of stars in each galaxy, each with its own potential planetary systems. Even if the odds were fractions of a percent that there was civilization on some, the existing amount of civilizations is still in the hundreds of millions. Now if those planets were farther ahead than us in terms of intelligent life evolution it could be inconceivable. Humans have had 100 thousand years of evolution. If aliens had more time, oh, say the time dinosaurs had to evolve, 163 MILLION years, imagine what we could be capable of. If we spent 163 million years investing our efforts in the furthering of our civilization it is very possible we could travel to other planets and interact with life. Imagine if we didn't waste all our attention and money on crap like the kardashians, or athlete salaries, and focused that effort into going beyond our solar system.
Just note, there have been more advances in human knowledge and technology in the last 200 years, than the previous 980,000 combined, the majority of which were in the last hundred years. Likewise there has been 150 times more technological furtherance in this decade than the one before it.

If you take a moment to read the post I made, that you quoted,,, then you will see that I did not rule out intelligent life in the universe, I clearly stated that if there were,,, then there's not a single thing that would interest them about earth. I don't roll with The Zoo Guess,,,, the fact that no one had documented gorillas in the wild until 1920, doesn't do much for me & my curiosity for my alien counterparts.

,,,, but if aliens do exit those fast moving aircraft & introduce themselves,,, I'll ask them the shaving question that puzzles me.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make it seem like I thought you ruled out intelligent life. My intention was to show that stuff like bacteria is amusing to us and some people spend their entire lives staring at uninteresting, boring, microscopic blobs as a passion. I meant that intelligent life will always find something to study, no matter how boring. The rest was not directed to your comment, I should have narrowed the quote or started another paragraph after the gorilla thing. My apologies.
They probably shave with a straight razor, like all intelligent beings do

For those old enough to remember, one of my favorite shows;

With the amount of planets out there I find it harder to believe that there is NOT more life out there. If that life can in fact travel to us I would think we would offer little more than a curiosity. Much like us observing chimps.

Besides anything can you imagine what would happen if they did decide to communicate, we can't even get along with ourselves let alone a completely different species !

To the original post - I had this identical experience when I was younger. It wasn't until years later when I had the same experience that I realized it was a fire fly. The smallness of the fly against the largeness of the sky can screw with your depth perception. So what is only 20-30 ft away, flying around the yard, is super-imposed onto the sky and appears to be far out there. This would explain the rapid changes in angle and the sudden disappearance. I had the identical experience.

Well, I have lived for 60 odd years near the same airport and am used to seeing and hearing planes/helos day or night. I have never seen one that seemed as low as that make absolutely no sound. That was the interesting/freaky part. Even a passenger jet at 30,000 feet makes a noise once it is past your position on such a clear and still night. Interesting experience though.

Bob

Originally Posted by MajorEthanolic

To the original post - I had this identical experience when I was younger. It wasn't until years later when I had the same experience that I realized it was a fire fly. The smallness of the fly against the largeness of the sky can screw with your depth perception. So what is only 20-30 ft away, flying around the yard, is super-imposed onto the sky and appears to be far out there. This would explain the rapid changes in angle and the sudden disappearance. I had the identical experience.

Well, there was no rapid changes in angle and it did not suddenly disappear, just rapidly accelerate away on a steady course. I do know what you mean by perception though. A flying scale model plane photographed against the sky can appear to be a real airplane flying in the distance. I do not think it was a matter of that kind of perception in this case.

Bob