Thread: The Matrrix: Si-Fi or pschyco-religious commentry?

If a society can't elect anyone but a bunch of scoundrels no matter who they vote for, then it needs to reexamine itself. Unfortunately, I think it's a part of human nature to only look out for your own interests and screw the society. Canada's not much better when it comes to that.. I still remember the Liberal sponsorship scandal and the Conservatives are just as bad, but they haven't been caught.

Although there is no dearth of scoundrels in politics, the bigger problem, as I see it is that with our democatic system, the damage is done in dribs and drabs and slowly mutates and one person or administration isn't going to undo all the damage and erosion of the system that's been done. Governments get more and more complex as they become older and larger. That's their nature. They take on a life of their own and no matter how they start, if a country survives long enough and the governments grow old enough and big enough, one can only hope the beast never tests the strength of the chain that tethers it.

Originally Posted by PapaBull

That seems like a very huge difference, rather than a very little one. Maybe it's just me.

I was referring mainly to their structure. The United States government, by way of the Constitution of the U.S., is really nothing more than a corporation. The main difference is that the U.S. government (or any other) has considerably more power over we the peasants than any private sector corporation.

Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

I think you're ignoring the fact that if an administration doesn't provide the services paid for by your tax dollars, you can always elect another one.
As for objecting.. I don't know how they run things in the States, but as long as you don't resort to committing or inciting violence/property damage/terrorism, the legal system won't bother you here in Canada. If it's different south of the border, you need to elect a new government.

We changed control of the Congress in 1994 and again in the the recent federal election and have had two presidents in that time. Here, in the Peoples' Republic of California, we recalled the governor and replaced him with "The Governator". Maybe it's just me but things don't seem to have changed much. As for objecting, many people do. Some of them do obviously illegal things and end up imprisoned even if the illegal thing they did really wasn't wrong. Others can be caught up simply because they didn't know they were doing something illegal because of the labyrinthine legal codes. As far as violence/property damage/terrorism is concerned, that would depend on one's perspective. In the late eighteenth century King George would have referred to the American colonists as terrorists had that term been in vogue. The colonists, on the other hand, saw themselves as reasonable men who simply wanted to govern their own affairs without interference from a far off monarchy. If the colonists had lost their war for independence the history books would have referred to it as an insurrection (The Brits probably still do. ) as the history books are written by the winners.
By the way... wasn't this thread about a movie?

I think it still is.

"The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

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