Thread: Ebola

Originally Posted by DickWhitman

Sarah Palin has expressed her sympathies and is praying for all the sick and suffering people living in Ebola.

Thanks for bringing a smile to my face early on this Friday morning.

I think everyone needs to get a grip. How many people are killed in car accidents every year? How many die of influenza? How many die of gunshots? How many die of flesh eating bacteria? The list goes on and on. No one seems to be that concerned about these killers. Yet folks are fixated on something that has killed one person and infected how many?

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

I think everyone needs to get a grip. How many people are killed in car accidents every year? How many die of influenza? How many die of gunshots? How many die of flesh eating bacteria? The list goes on and on. No one seems to be that concerned about these killers. Yet folks are fixated on something that has killed one person and infected how many?

That is true. OTH if this is just a test run with a minimal number of cases to be processed by the system designed to manage diseases such as Ebola then people have cause to ask questions and be a little worried. Not panic but be concerned.

Bob

Whether I've tipped my hand or not, I think that my comment about fiscal conservatives not buying into the idea of a dedicated federal hospital is pretty accurate... it's an assessment, not a political statement.

My remarks are indeed negative, but not because I'm saying that, "it can't be done". Rather, my intent was to show what we're up against; remember, I agree with your original premise!

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

I think everyone needs to get a grip. How many people are killed in car accidents every year? How many die of influenza? How many die of gunshots? How many die of flesh eating bacteria? The list goes on and on. No one seems to be that concerned about these killers. Yet folks are fixated on something that has killed one person and infected how many?

On the other hand,how many tens of thousands have died in Africa from Ebola?granted, Americans really do not care what happens in Africa IMO.
We have a disease that has no cure and is a plane ride away,It is here as we speke,it needs to be addressed no matter how few have been infected.
I remember 15 yrs ago when MRSA was very rare,Than people started to die from it,Than the CDC got off thier butts and it can now be treated to a point.
In 2001 the NIH was on the verge of creating ebola vaccine,Than the feds pulled the funding,no more research was done.
Today we might have had a Vaccine for Ebola,But what happens in Africa, stays in Africa,Wrong

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

On the other hand,how many tens of thousands have died in Africa from Ebola?granted, Americans really do not care what happens in Africa IMO.
We have a disease that has no cure and is a plane ride away,It is here as we speke,it needs to be addressed no matter how few have been infected.
I remember 15 yrs ago when MRSA was very rare,Than people started to die from it,Than the CDC got off thier butts and it can now be treated to a point.
In 2001 the NIH was on the verge of creating ebola vaccine,Than the feds pulled the funding,no more research was done.
Today we might have had a Vaccine for Ebola,But what happens in Africa, stays in Africa,Wrong

There are two vaccines in trial right now. Human trials. All they need to do is do the testing in low dose up to high dose and make sure that the people taking it produce antibodies and don't get sick (not ebola sick, just sick) from it. The makers say it's impossible to actually get ebola or marburg from it and it has produced antibodies in non-human primates. The low dose group has already started the trial.

I wonder how much it got fast tracked when ebola suddenly became a first world problem?

There are other vaccines apparently 6 months away, which doesn't help much now. I think GSK is the maker of the vaccine 6 months away. The current trial vaccine is Canadian, but I don't know who is making it.

Originally Posted by DaveW

There are two vaccines in trial right now. Human trials. All they need to do is do the testing in low dose up to high dose and make sure that the people taking it produce antibodies and don't get sick (not ebola sick, just sick) from it. The makers say it's impossible to actually get ebola or marburg from it and it has produced antibodies in non-human primates. The low dose group has already started the trial.

I wonder how much it got fast tracked when ebola suddenly became a first world problem?

There are other vaccines apparently 6 months away, which doesn't help much now. I think GSK is the maker of the vaccine 6 months away. The current trial vaccine is Canadian, but I don't know who is making it.

Some news on the Canadian vaccine 5 things to know about Canada’s experimental Ebola vaccine | Globalnews.ca including the maker.

I don't think there is any need to wonder if vaccine development got fast tracked because of this outbreak and Ebola in locales other than Africa. I bet my bottom dollar it was.

Bob

Originally Posted by Dzanda

Whether I've tipped my hand or not, I think that my comment about fiscal conservatives not buying into the idea of a dedicated federal hospital is pretty accurate... it's an assessment, not a political statement.

My remarks are indeed negative, but not because I'm saying that, "it can't be done". Rather, my intent was to show what we're up against; remember, I agree with your original premise!

Your spot on with your assessment,,,, the fiscal conservatives that you speak of, are politicans, on both sides. My thoughts on politicians, that have gotten us into this mess, are best not expressed.

We're up against a killer that cares not what we feel about ourselves,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

For anyone who's interested, here are the CDC Guidelines for hospitalized Ebola patients

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

On the other hand,how many tens of thousands have died in Africa from Ebola?granted, Americans really do not care what happens in Africa

More like 4.5 thousand.

If we don't care what happens in Africa then why have we had troops deployed there for over 6 yrs in like 50 different outposts? It's called Africom.