Thread: Ebola

I think everyone needs to get a grip. How many people are killed in car accidents every year? How many die of influenza? How many die of gunshots? How many die of flesh eating bacteria? The list goes on and on. No one seems to be that concerned about these killers. Yet folks are fixated on something that has killed one person and infected how many?

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

I think everyone needs to get a grip. How many people are killed in car accidents every year? How many die of influenza? How many die of gunshots? How many die of flesh eating bacteria? The list goes on and on. No one seems to be that concerned about these killers. Yet folks are fixated on something that has killed one person and infected how many?

That is true. OTH if this is just a test run with a minimal number of cases to be processed by the system designed to manage diseases such as Ebola then people have cause to ask questions and be a little worried. Not panic but be concerned.

Bob

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

I think everyone needs to get a grip. How many people are killed in car accidents every year? How many die of influenza? How many die of gunshots? How many die of flesh eating bacteria? The list goes on and on. No one seems to be that concerned about these killers. Yet folks are fixated on something that has killed one person and infected how many?

On the other hand,how many tens of thousands have died in Africa from Ebola?granted, Americans really do not care what happens in Africa IMO.
We have a disease that has no cure and is a plane ride away,It is here as we speke,it needs to be addressed no matter how few have been infected.
I remember 15 yrs ago when MRSA was very rare,Than people started to die from it,Than the CDC got off thier butts and it can now be treated to a point.
In 2001 the NIH was on the verge of creating ebola vaccine,Than the feds pulled the funding,no more research was done.
Today we might have had a Vaccine for Ebola,But what happens in Africa, stays in Africa,Wrong

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

On the other hand,how many tens of thousands have died in Africa from Ebola?granted, Americans really do not care what happens in Africa IMO.
We have a disease that has no cure and is a plane ride away,It is here as we speke,it needs to be addressed no matter how few have been infected.
I remember 15 yrs ago when MRSA was very rare,Than people started to die from it,Than the CDC got off thier butts and it can now be treated to a point.
In 2001 the NIH was on the verge of creating ebola vaccine,Than the feds pulled the funding,no more research was done.
Today we might have had a Vaccine for Ebola,But what happens in Africa, stays in Africa,Wrong

There are two vaccines in trial right now. Human trials. All they need to do is do the testing in low dose up to high dose and make sure that the people taking it produce antibodies and don't get sick (not ebola sick, just sick) from it. The makers say it's impossible to actually get ebola or marburg from it and it has produced antibodies in non-human primates. The low dose group has already started the trial.

I wonder how much it got fast tracked when ebola suddenly became a first world problem?

There are other vaccines apparently 6 months away, which doesn't help much now. I think GSK is the maker of the vaccine 6 months away. The current trial vaccine is Canadian, but I don't know who is making it.

Originally Posted by DaveW

There are two vaccines in trial right now. Human trials. All they need to do is do the testing in low dose up to high dose and make sure that the people taking it produce antibodies and don't get sick (not ebola sick, just sick) from it. The makers say it's impossible to actually get ebola or marburg from it and it has produced antibodies in non-human primates. The low dose group has already started the trial.

I wonder how much it got fast tracked when ebola suddenly became a first world problem?

There are other vaccines apparently 6 months away, which doesn't help much now. I think GSK is the maker of the vaccine 6 months away. The current trial vaccine is Canadian, but I don't know who is making it.

Some news on the Canadian vaccine 5 things to know about Canada’s experimental Ebola vaccine | Globalnews.ca including the maker.

I don't think there is any need to wonder if vaccine development got fast tracked because of this outbreak and Ebola in locales other than Africa. I bet my bottom dollar it was.

Bob

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

On the other hand,how many tens of thousands have died in Africa from Ebola?granted, Americans really do not care what happens in Africa

More like 4.5 thousand.

If we don't care what happens in Africa then why have we had troops deployed there for over 6 yrs in like 50 different outposts? It's called Africom.

Originally Posted by DickWhitman

More like 4.5 thousand.

If we don't care what happens in Africa then why have we had troops deployed there for over 6 yrs in like 50 different outposts? It's called Africom.

The average citizen in the West may not care but rest assured Western governments and corporations do care. Western governments are concerned with the huge increase in China's influence in that part of the world and our Western corporations need to make profit in that part of the world.

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

The average citizen in the West may not care but rest assured Western governments and corporations do care. Western governments are concerned with the huge increase in China's influence in that part of the world and our Western corporations need to make profit in that part of the world.

Bob

Of coarse Commerce cares,is all about Money,do you think most in the western world gives a Rats Azz that tens of thousands of children die of starvation in 3rd world countrys?? not on a bet,Maybe it is Gods way of population control.
But Ebola is here,in the good old US of A,like it or not.

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

Of coarse Commerce cares,is all about Money,do you think most in the western world gives a Rats Azz that tens of thousands of children die of starvation in 3rd world countrys?? not on a bet,Maybe it is Gods way of population control.
But Ebola is here,in the good old US of A,like it or not.

Exactly my point. The average citizen in the West does not care until it is their problem in their backyard. How could you misunderstand what I had said? The USA is not the only country in the West that has had to deal with confirmed Ebola cases recently. Is this a private pity party or can others join in?

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

Exactly my point. The average citizen in the West does not care until it is their problem in their backyard. How could you misunderstand what I had said? The USA is not the only country in the West that has had to deal with confirmed Ebola cases recently. Is this a private pity party or can others join in?

Bob

No Pity Party on my part,is very simple to me,Ban anyone from coming to the U.S From countrys where Ebola is a problem until it is under control.
Close our Borders,Deport every Illegal that resides in the U.S,A little radical,thats just the way I think