Thread: A question on the constitution

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Yes it is in epidemic proportions, talk about a reach

In the U.S., since 1977 violence directed towards abortion providers has killed at least eight people, including four doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort

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I'm glad you got to this statistic before I did. Let's think about that for a minute - 8.....8....EIGHT. You're not going to get your face on the cover of "Modern Terrorist" with those numbers. ISIS beheads 8 people before their morning coffee and were supposed to equate the two? No more questions your honor.

The next time I make an argument I'll try to spell it out in such comprehensive manner that it takes more than 24 hours to figure out a way to misinterpret it.

Have fun

Originally Posted by gugi

Yes, just like slavery is complex issue so is islamic terrorism. We solved our issues with slavery,

Ummmmm no that is not actually true either,,, They (Daesh and Boko Harum) are actively selling slaves, I would think that alone would cause the world to react

Where is the outrage???? the outcry ???Heck I see more outrage at slavery that happened 150 years ago then what is happening today being seen and bragged about on social media...

It is simply an indefensible position to argue,, and there is only one solution... Sometimes when you get called out, you actually have to step up and talking isn't an option

I don't think you are getting it yet. Nobody here is defending slavery or terrorism, or genocide, so it is time that you stop saying that and accusing people of things that are only in your mind.

The problem is not whether it has to be stopped, but how can it be stopped. Your 'only one solution' has been failing despite putting everything you are willing to put.

Or are you saying that the american people are willing to support yet another war in Iraq and Syria like the ones in Afganistan and Iraq. We were there for ten years and then quit leaving the countries more fertile for terrorism than before. What will be different this time around?

Why is it always just the Americans???

Remember there is a 60 country coalition just ask Josh Earnest,,, Are you trying to say that 60 countries can't solve this issue ?

I find that rather hard to believe..

Originally Posted by gugi

I don't think you are getting it yet. Nobody here is defending slavery or terrorism, or genocide, so it is time that you stop saying that and accusing people of things that are only in your mind.

The problem is not whether it has to be stopped, but how can it be stopped. Your 'only one solution' has been failing despite putting everything you are willing to put.

Or are you saying that the american people are willing to support yet another war in Iraq and Syria like the ones in Afganistan and Iraq. We were there for ten years and then quit leaving the countries more fertile for terrorism than before. What will be different this time around?

Albert Einstein had a definition of insanity, "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" That should about cover it.

Bob

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Why is it always just the Americans???

Remember there is a 60 country coalition just ask Josh Earnest,,, Are you trying to say that 60 countries can't solve this issue ?

I find that rather hard to believe..

You are the one saying that US should do it all on its own, not me.

I've been saying all along that this has to be solved politically through international cooperation because US does not have the resources (even if it's in terms of not willing to pay the price) to achieve the objectives it wants to achieve.

Originally Posted by gugi

You are the one saying that US should do it all on its own, not me.

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Nope not I

And it has been over a year since Daesh (the JV team) burst onto the world stage and rolled up the Iraqi army... So politics aren't working that well

Tons of talk some support and little action

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/c...ion-are-doing/


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Another thing that is becoming more and more clear is that even Muslim Forces that are willing to fight are not so keen on doing anything except to protect their own territories... Was listening to a Kurdish spokesman today drive home that point quite clearly, they have no real intention of hunting down any of these groups and killing them..

Actually the politics is working (for now, it may stop anytime), Iraq has a new government that is better than the previous one.
US has apparently given up on its 'regime change' policy on Syria and down the road negotiate a compromise with Russia (and may be Iran in the background).


Apparently when US refuses to do the job on its own other countries eventually start pitching in a meaningful way. But building real coalition from a window dressing to give some semblance of legitimacy to a US campaign takes time.

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I imagine you sitting at your keyboard shaking your head saying to yourself "Why doesn't he understand what I am saying here"

That is exactly what I am doing "Why doesn't he see that unless we hunt them down and kill them SOON more people are going to die horrible deaths"

Two different view points

But I am outta this now, I have made my points