Thread: A personal message (with the admin's permission, I hope)

Originally Posted by wvbias

Perhaps they simply let their position go to their heads??



Terry

You know Terry I think you are right. I think moderators need to take a back seat unless it is really getting hostile.

Originally Posted by RichZ

You know Terry I think you are right. I think moderators need to take a back seat unless it is really getting hostile.

I'm glad that we don't have melt downs on SRP over
soaps, creams, brushes and the like.

The only time things have gotten nasty here is when a
discussion turns political. Those threads just aren't
any good.



Terry

Originally Posted by wvbias

I'm glad that we don't have melt downs on SRP over
soaps, creams, brushes and the like.

The only time things have gotten nasty here is when a
discussion turns political. Those threads just aren't
any good.



Terry

Politics & Religion ---- Deadly topics

Originally Posted by RichZ

Personally I read the posts you mentioned and the moderators seemed kind of prissy. From the two I read 18 and 26 I would have been pissed at the moderators. Sounded like a few of the guys who are no longer on this site.

But seriously...those mods needed to calm down...I didn't think Tryphon said anything, not having viewed the PMs of course, to evoke such a hostile response.

Giovanni,

I am also a member of SMF and am actually awaiting some samples of your soaps, and find this a bit disconcerting. I can understand the "reprimand" for the commercial blades post, but the subsequent ban for what appears to be legitimate posts leads me to believe there is something else at work. Hopefully, you will get a full explanation of what happened.

Good luck.

Jeff

I am a member at both SMF and B&B. And I am a moderator at both sites. I was not involved in the banning, but it goes to violation of forum rules. I do know that warnings were given. Part of the problem was the promoting of his own forum. Part of the problem was the constant self promotion of his products inside of threads. Neither SMF or B&B have sponsors. I have on several occasions requested that new vendors check out the posts of Tony Miller as a vendor who participates as a member, and also participates as a vendor without any issues. I did not point this out to Giovanni. Maybe I should have. I do know that he was contacted more than once to stop promoting his items outside of the Vendor/Shopping forum on both sites. The requests went unheeded. And I'm not about to go through both sites to find the questionable threads. They are there for anyone who has the time to find them. What happened is unfortunate, but based on the knowledge I have, I see no reason why the banning should not have taken place. And Giovanni, FYI, on both forums, there were lengthy threads about what to do regarding your behavior. Neither forum banned you as a snap decision. A lot of input and consideration was placed into the bannings.

If anyone wants to know more, please, don't pm me. My time on the forums is extremely limited for the next few months, and anything you want to read is still on the forums. Visit them for yourself. The bannings were not about a power trip. It was about upholding the "laws of the land".

RT

I just scoured B&B and didn't see any posts made by him that were out of order...perhaps the mods have since deleted them. Heck, he doesn't even show up on the members list now.

Anyway, I think it's a crock that promoting your own product is such a big deal. Nobody is forcing them to read his posts....and if people didn't talk about new products in forums other than the vendor forums I wouldn't know much about anything.

If he was only a vendor and not a member that took part in other discussions, that'd be one thing...but from what I saw that was clearly not the case.

My 2 cents FWIW.

I looked over at the Razor and Brush forum. I'm not sure if he created it, but it definitely looks like he's using it as a vehicle for promoting his wares.
and I found this:
"I don't know what the real reason for the ban may be: I really think that using my innocent post about my travel razors article as a reason for a ban is quite ridiculous. There have been mixed signals from the moderators, with Johnnie being quite reasonable in the past. We corresponded on fountain pen repair issues and he was quite nice. Then, this ban, which really comes as a surprise, since I honestly can't see what I did against the posting guidelines..."
http://members.boardhost.com/razoran...178487891.html
This guy needs to come clean and admit he made mistakes instead of stringing people along.

Gents,

I intend for this to be my last post on this issue. All forums have their own set of rules and terms of use. Giovanni violated those at both SMF and B&B. Whether you or I agree or disagree with those rules, those are the rules. Did he read them in advance? I don't know. But when he joined the forums, he agreed to abide by all rules and terms of use. And then he ignored warnings. Frankly, I find it interesting that he seems rather proud of being banned at two forums. And I say that as a forum member, not as a moderator at any forum.

And, as a member of a forum, I question why he did not simply post here that he no longer participated at those forums and ask to be contacted by email. He went out of his way to "brag" about being banned. Had he simply posted that he no longer participated, this would be a very short thread. But now, look at the publicity. IMO, that says it all.

RT

Originally Posted by wvbias

I'm glad that we don't have melt downs on SRP over
soaps, creams, brushes and the like.

Hones on the other hand, seem to arouse some ire.