Seriously, I think there are some people who come to the forum as (in their minds) rugged individualists. In their world they are probably receiving some notoriety for being wild and getting lots of retro cool points from the Quad/Gel group. So they come here with an attitude, fierce, independent and manly. Then they have to confront their dearth of knowledge and are offended by the help offered by the wise old gents of the shave kingdom. It took me longer than most to come to the realization that you had to respect those who had knowledge that you wanted. It seems so simple but isn't.