Thread: President of the US of A

If Osama I mean Obama could run he would probably win again. I think the lack of a credible candidate has hurt the republican party in the past 2 elections. Their platform is outdated. They needed to reinvent themselves and perhaps that is some of Trumps appeal. If he wins the nomination it will be an incredible victory considering what he is up against. His opponents include some of the most powerful people in our country with an open checkbook and the media. The man has held his own so far. If he is elected he will surround himself with the best people for the positions. His dogged determination may just rub off on America and make us proud again.

I am truly ashamed of America for even considering Donald Trump as the leader of this great country. There are no candidates worth voting for but I will be voting and NO WAY I am voting for Trump! Hilary Clinton is more of a man than that clown

This was a good read that just came across my feed...

A Constitutional Lesson for Donald J. Trump, Chicago, Illinois, and America:

The cancelled ‪#‎TrumpRally‬ in Chicago is a classic example of what we call in the Constitutional realm as a "Heckler's Veto."

You have freedom of speech, but that only exists until you interfere with someone else's freedom of speech. That is the difference between Liberty and freedom.

The whole reason for securing the Right to free speech is to make sure that a mob cannot shut down the speech of others.

Your Liberty ends when you interfere with another's Rights:

“Without Freedom of Thought, there can be no such Thing as Wisdom; and no such Thing as publick Liberty, without Freedom of Speech; which is the Right of every Man, as far as by it, he does not hurt or controul the Right of another: And this is the only Check it ought to suffer, and the only Bounds it ought to know." Silence Dogood, No. 8.

It is NOT an expression of freedom of speech to shut down someone else's speech or expression of ideas. That is not Liberty that is despotism.

Jefferson said, "One hundred and seventy-three despots would surely be as oppressive as one."

We are NOT a democracy. We are NOT mob rule. We are a Constitutional Republic where the Rights of the minority are just as important as the heckling mob.

The local law enforcement had a responsibility to make sure that the rally was NOT cancelled and those who wanted to stop it were not successful. When the "Hecklers" are successful, what you have is despotism by mob.

Greta Van Susteren is TOTALLY WRONG. Protesters NEVER have a "right" to freedom of speech to shut down someone else's speech. ‪#‎Greta‬ needs to go back to Constitutional Law class.

Local government must “provide police in such numbers as in their professional judgment are required to afford adequate protection to [protesters].” Dunlap v City of Chicago 435 F. Supp. 1295 (1977)

Local law enforcement should have never advised Trump to not have the rally. They should've said, "We will protect your Rights and make sure your speech is not stopped. It is our duty!"

It is time for America to get the proper perspective on Liberty. It is time to start defending the proper principles. How about we start spreading the Truth about Freedom of Speech, instead of the propaganda being spread by the media on this subject?

Originally Posted by Steel

Hilary Clinton is more of a man

Now we agree on something

Originally Posted by gssixgun

It is time for America to get the proper perspective on Liberty. It is time to start defending the proper principles. How about we start spreading the Truth about Freedom of Speech, instead of the propaganda being spread by the media on this subject?[/I]

I just heard the mealy mouthed Kaisich (I have no idea if I'm spelling his name right) saying that Trump reaps what he sows. It's guys like him that have offered these castrated reactions to getting agendas rammed down our throats by protesters instead of pushing back on that crap. One thing I did agree with Trump on was the idea that if a protester show up throwing punches, punch back. The other candidates are responding as though that doesn't make sense.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

When Romney made his boast that he pays every penny of his taxes and not a dime more and many folks cheered that, the reality was when he said that he was really sticking it to every middle class person. Guys like him and their agents are the ones who write the tax laws and they do it to benefit them not us. The rest of us take it in the shorts come tax time. The tax laws are thousands of pages long. If they only related to middle class and lower folk they would only be a couple hundred pages at most. The rest is just smoke and mirrors to allow the rich to keep as much of their wealth as they pretty much want. Most of the population have an idea the system is rigged but few really know just how rigged it is. I had an uncle who was a tax lawyer and we used to have these discussions about taxes. it was pretty eye opening.

So you are for Ted Cruz then, since part of his platform is to get rid of all this so that you can do your taxes on a postcard and there will be no need for the IRS

Originally Posted by OCDshaver

I just heard the mealy mouthed Kaisich (I have no idea if I'm spelling his name right) saying that Trump reaps what he sows. It's guys like him that have offered these castrated reactions to getting agendas rammed down our throats by protesters instead of pushing back on that crap. One thing I did agree with Trump on was the idea that if a protester show up throwing punches, punch back. The other candidates are responding as though that doesn't make sense.

All three,,, Cruz Rubio and Kasich just all said that, I wonder if they are smart enough to know that if tomorrow Trump drops out that they will become the "target" the day after

Originally Posted by gssixgun

All three,,, Cruz Rubio and Kasich just all said that, I wonder if they are smart enough to know that if tomorrow Trump drops out that they will become the "target" the day after

I'm not convinced that they would become that target because they are not promising what Trump is promising. Consequently they are all trailing him in the race. The topics that make Trump controversial are the ones I agree most with him on. It's the other stuff that concerns me. But Trump did not create a toxic environment. We live in one every day. It's just that the other candidates are letting those leftist protestors dictate what they say, and increasingly, what they do. Then someone like Trump comes along and they don't know what to do but try to silence him.

Tis a long building shame that we find ourselves in a situation where we no longer vote for the best candidate but; the lesser of two evils.

~Richard

Originally Posted by Geezer

Tis a long building shame that we find ourselves in a situation where we no longer vote for the best candidate but; the lesser of two evils.

~Richard

As far as I'm concerned, it's been that way since Reagan left office.