Thread: President of the US of A

Originally Posted by Brenngun

OK. Great. Since this is likely what some are basing their voting decision on please show me the proof. Not taking a "Whitey Bolger defence" on this just following what the law says. I would expect everyone would agree with doing that .... right? Please douse me with the facts that prove your assertions. I'm a sponge at this point. I want to agree with you. Show me the way to the truth but lets use facts not hyperbole.

Do you have to get personally bit by this snake of a woman?
The White House silverware, No specifically Martha Washington's Personal White House mementos, that ended up in Clintons possession.

Seems simple to republicans. They stole all this stuff.

They were gifted various items and took what they were gifted. After the investigation many of the gifters said some of the stuff was for the Clintons and some said it was for the White House. The Park Service which runs the place never officially received the items or inventoried them. The Clintons inventoried them and returned them all.

If you look back over the years many presidents of both parties got gifts which they kept but of course the opposing political party wasn't interested in making political hay about it at the time.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

If you look back over the years many presidents of both parties got gifts which they kept but of course the opposing political party wasn't interested in making political hay about it at the time.

That's because in the grand scheme of things it was too petty of bother with it.

Originally Posted by ultrasoundguy2003

Do you have to get personally bit by this snake of a woman?
The White House silverware, No specifically Martha Washington's Personal White House mementos, that ended up in Clintons possession.

OK thanks for the response. So please help me. The claim is she stole something from the White House. Can you tell me what source you referenced that proves the removal of these items was theft? It should reference a person with direct knowledge of the events leading up to the theft. I'm not interested in conjecture. I don't want to agree that this actually happened without proven facts however I will say it did happen if I can see actual proof. I look forward to your help.

The answer to your question is all over the web on all the usual Right Wing sites like the breitbart report which either makes up stuff or takes a grain of truth and embellishes it until it becomes something else and then sensationalizes it. Then it's picked up by all the right wing mouthpiece gurus and wa-la it's the gospel truth.

When you want to see actual facts you get dead air and of course the mainstream media is the evil empire and all in on it so they don't mention it.

Only the right wingers see the truth.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

The answer to your question is all over the web on all the usual Right Wing sites like the breitbart report which either makes up stuff or takes a grain of truth and embellishes it until it becomes something else and then sensationalizes it. Then it's picked up by all the right wing mouthpiece gurus and wa-la it's the gospel truth.

When you want to see actual facts you get dead air and of course the mainstream media is the evil empire and all in on it so they don't mention it.

Only the right wingers see the truth.

As some one who appears to be in the know I have to ask what are some of your sources?

Originally Posted by Brenngun

OK thanks for the response. So please help me. The claim is she stole something from the White House. Can you tell me what source you referenced that proves the removal of these items was theft? It should reference a person with direct knowledge of the events leading up to the theft. I'm not interested in conjecture. I don't want to agree that this actually happened without proven facts however I will say it did happen if I can see actual proof. I look forward to your help.

You have all the info you need to search it out and then from your searches you have to decide the truth

See the problem is that regardless of any info presented unless you go find it yourself so you can read all sides and perspectives you will not believe it anyway... I know I wouldn't

When somebody says something I just go look for myself

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

It's like being Capt of a ship. You follow a legal order. The chain of command is to ensure the Pres actually issued the command and that he is in his right head. A General sitting at Norad cannot stop the process otherwise and if it was stopped there better be a medical certification to back it up.

No actually it isn't but moving on, as I see it the real issue is the lack of fortitude of people like Obama, Sanders, or Clinton to actually give the launch order after/during an attack then the possibility of Trump having his finger on the trigger which I know for a fact cannot work from a single person's command..

The biggest fear is that our enemies easily see that same thing as I do..

Originally Posted by jmercer

As some one who appears to be in the know I have to ask what are some of your sources?

An old indian trick. (my apologies to any indians reading that)Claim something outrageous, cook up the truth and then make someone prove it didn't happen.

I'm not making any claims so I'm not needing to prove or disprove anything. It's up to those making the claims to prove the veracity of what they are claiming.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

The answer to your question is all over the web on all the usual Right Wing sites like the breitbart report which either makes up stuff or takes a grain of truth and embellishes it until it becomes something else and then sensationalizes it. Then it's picked up by all the right wing mouthpiece gurus and wa-la it's the gospel truth.

When you want to see actual facts you get dead air and of course the mainstream media is the evil empire and all in on it so they don't mention it.

Only the right wingers see the truth.

Yep those right wing sites that make stuff up like Salon, HuffPo and VOX