Thread: Measles

Since Phrank brought up the issue of the inevitable pandemics in the near future, I'll toss another monkey wrench into the discussion. We are approaching the end of the era of antibiotics' ability to control bacterial infections; from what I am reading, we are already there with some strains of STD's, tuberculosis, MRSA, various staph and strep strains. I foresee our health care infrastructures being overwhelmed even in developed countries within the near future.

Originally Posted by ScoutHikerDad

Since Phrank brought up the issue of the inevitable pandemics in the near future, I'll toss another monkey wrench into the discussion. We are approaching the end of the era of antibiotics' ability to control bacterial infections; from what I am reading, we are already there with some strains of STD's, tuberculosis, MRSA, various staph and strep strains. I foresee our health care infrastructures being overwhelmed even in developed countries within the near future.

from what i understand that is a result of the over use of antibiotics and focusing so hard on one strain of the disease. It allows other strains to take over. It's been noted that even if you get the chicken pox vaccine you are more likely to get a more severe case of shingles later in life, probably because your immune system has been weekend from not being exposed to the chicken pox (and re building your immune system to it) through out your life (since people aren't getting it anymore).

Originally Posted by tintin

from what i understand that is a result of the over use of antibiotics and focusing so hard on one strain of the disease. It allows other strains to take over. It's been noted that even if you get the chicken pox vaccine you are more likely to get a more severe case of shingles later in life, probably because your immune system has been weekend from not being exposed to the chicken pox (and re building your immune system to it) through out your life (since people aren't getting it anymore).

Once you get chickenpox the virus stays in your system forever. It just waits until later in life for the right conditions and comes out as shingles.

As I said in an earlier post, I had my shots when I was a kid. I remember clearly that I had them in school, I must have been about 5 - or maybe that was a different shot! Maybe that wasn't THE shots. I was too young and my parents are gone but what I do remember for sure. When a neighbourhood kid got chicken pox or the measles, me and some of my friends were sent over to play with him so we could get it.

I definitely remember the polio vaccination because it was on a sugar cube and we ate it.

I also remember getting a smallpox vaccination when I was about 10.

Steve

To quote a venerable Republican strategist, "Until the social media platforms do something about anti-vaxxers, their pernicious evil will continue to spread like measles through a population of uninoculated children."

Yo, Ivan, care to shut down this thread - and delete it? Like srsly?

Originally Posted by RobinK

To quote a venerable Republican strategist, "Until the social media platforms do something about anti-vaxxers, their pernicious evil will continue to spread like measles through a population of uninoculated children."

Yo, Ivan, care to shut down this thread - and delete it? Like srsly?

There are a variety of directions this thread can travel but it hasn't yet.

As long as it's a polite discussion.......

As long as people (and health professionals) keep noticing a connection between illness/death connected to vaccines it won't go away. Those who doubt should be open minded enough to at least listen to what health care workers are saying and then make their decision.

Originally Posted by ScoutHikerDad

Since Phrank brought up the issue of the inevitable pandemics in the near future, I'll toss another monkey wrench into the discussion. We are approaching the end of the era of antibiotics' ability to control bacterial infections; from what I am reading, we are already there with some strains of STD's, tuberculosis, MRSA, various staph and strep strains. I foresee our health care infrastructures being overwhelmed even in developed countries within the near future.

The only reason this is happening is because the drug outfits aren't developing new antibiotics because they can't get huge profits from them. At some point you'll see new classes of antibiotics developed. If the dug outfits won't do it either the Gov't will or pressure will be applied.