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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigspendur View Post
    Think it will run on my Commodore 64?
    The new Commodore 64 ships with Ubuntu 10.04 installed.
    https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/...running-ubuntu
    https://www.networkworld.com/article...g-ubuntu-.html

    Ubuntu is a little more resource hungry than some other, more minimalist Linux distros. And you probably mean an original C-64, not the new one. So maybe a clever Linux/C-64 geek could get a stripped down Ubuntu install working, I think you would want a more lean and mean Linux than Ubuntu. Maybe LUnix. That's right, first two letters upper case. Stands for "Little Unix". It actually brings a lot of new capabilities to the Commodore 64 platform as it was designed specifically to leverage that hardware.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LUnix

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    Ok. I think i figured out what this thread is about. Its a computer thingy. Probably fits in right under the coffee cup holder drawer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrescentCityRazors View Post
    Yeah that is a downer. I forgot about that. But a P4... can't it access more than 4GB of RAM? Maybe an overclock and a RAM upgrade would make it work with a 64 bit Linux?
    No, it can't; 4GB is the upper limit for RAM with a P4 CPU -- in any case, it's the motherboard that's the limiting factor. I wish it were as simple as overclocking the CPU and upgrading the RAM; sadly, 64-bit support is limited by the CPU: if it has the EM64T extensions, then it's a go; if not, not. Mine doesn't, so there you/I are. Not a problem, but much of the FOSS software has now stopped supporting 32-bit OSes: VMware was one of the first, which sucked greatly... sadly, there are others.
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    Expecting it like crazy ? Nope, I've not been looking forward to the next release for years now.
    I don't even know the changelog lol, but yeah, moving to python 3 is a very good thing.

    There was a time, at the begining of Ubuntu where each release came with a lot of bells and whistles (the "compiz" time), and the last time it did change for me was when they dropped unity since I had swtiched to Gnome for years.

    As for 32bit support there are a lot of better distros for that purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHoren View Post
    No, it can't; 4GB is the upper limit for RAM with a P4 CPU -- in any case, it's the motherboard that's the limiting factor. I wish it were as simple as overclocking the CPU and upgrading the RAM; sadly, 64-bit support is limited by the CPU: if it has the EM64T extensions, then it's a go; if not, not. Mine doesn't, so there you/I are. Not a problem, but much of the FOSS software has now stopped supporting 32-bit OSes: VMware was one of the first, which sucked greatly... sadly, there are others.
    Darn. And I bet you already tried booting from a 64 bit live USB just to be sure. But like you said, you are still good for three more years of support before you have to switch to a different distro. And for a computer of a certain age, three years is a long time anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gasman View Post
    Ok. I think i figured out what this thread is about. Its a computer thingy. Probably fits in right under the coffee cup holder drawer?
    Yea I had to look this one up myself. Some kind of open source operating system from Linux. Never heard of it but there were a lot of people that said it sure beats windows. I guess......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johntoad57 View Post
    Yea I had to look this one up myself. Some kind of open source operating system from Linux. Never heard of it but there were a lot of people that said it sure beats windows. I guess......
    Ubuntu is not from Linux. Linux is not a company or an entity. Strictly speaking it is the kernel of several (actually about a hundred) different distributions, all open source. Ubuntu is just the most popular flavor at the moment. It beats Windows in most respects, in most situations, but some work environments do not lend themselves well to Linux. Specifically when an IT department has service and support contracts with Microsoft or a contractor, or when the use of VBA extensions is required or when IT simply does not know anything about Linux and can't be bothered, or when they want to have all their eggs in one basket so to speak. The majority of the world's servers run Linux or Unix or another POSIX type operating system because they are inherently more secure, more scalable, and more customizable, not to mention more powerful and more capable of leveraging older hardware. For the home user there really isn't any reason to run Windows and there are many reasons not to do so, mainly related to security. I won't write a book here about it but if you ever find yourself needing to buy a copy of Windows in order to bring an old or repaired or homebuilt computer to life, consider Ubuntu or another Linux distribution first. It is free, did I mention that? And you can run it from a Live USB drive just to try it out, without installing it on the hard drive or changing any files on your hard drive. Back in the day, Linux was pretty much just for computer geeks but it is now ready for the big time. However since it is not a company, there is no marketing budget. There are companies making money from support and add-ons but they have no money for Microsoft style advertising campaigns or the clout to force PC makers to buy an OEM license. And so Linux is still sort of on the fringes of home and small business users but it is slowly creeping ahead in market share, especially with more tech savvy and security conscious users and power users.

    Ubuntu is pretty easy for Windows users to transition into, second only to Mint in that regard. The large user base makes peer support work really well, and there are a lot of pre-compiled apps that will install and run perfectly without any geeky stuff. And so I use Ubuntu and if anybody asks me what distro they should try I generally recommend Ubuntu but there are about a hundred others. A good topic to google when you have too much time on your hands.

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    been a user for years!!! But I have been on Mint for a long time now. The unity shell turned me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachschaller View Post
    been a user for years!!! But I have been on Mint for a long time now. The unity shell turned me off.
    You are not alone. I am fine with Unity but I have heard a lot of guys say the same thing. Under the hood, they are both still basically Debian.

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    Yeah, mint is a pretty good distro. Would be an easier transition than Ubuntu.
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