Thread: Turn the tables! Don't enter if your thin skinned

Originally Posted by Quick Orange

I will say that he is protected by the constitution just as much as the Dixie Chicks when they were in London. I can't stand what they said, but you didn't see Congress attempting to end their careers. Free speech was designed just for this reason- so people with unpopular opinions can say them.

...maybe not congress, but the entire population of the US. Not too mention a few death-threats. Made me listen to them that much more, knowing they have a spine and the guts to speak out. Good documentary too.

Originally Posted by edk442

...maybe not congress, but the entire population of the US. Not too mention a few death-threats. Made me listen to them that much more, knowing they have a spine and the guts to speak out. Good documentary too.

The entire population of the U.S. was not against the Dixie Chicks ---- most people did not have as much of a problem with what they said as much as where they said it. They would have guts if they would have said it in Texas --- not saying it to a population that largely felt like they do ---

I would have respected them if they would have said it here.

Would you have respect for a Canadan musician who went to the U.S. and bad mouthed your government or prime minister? --- I hope not.

And if you think that it takes guts for Americans within the Hollywood/ Music/Entertainment field to say something bad about a conservative/rightwing president then you don't understand how things work here. They will always have jobs -----


Justin

That was my problem too. The fact that they went to Europe and started things out with "Just so you know, we’re on the good side with y’all. We do not want this war, this violence, and we’re ashamed that the President of the United States is from Texas."

That just sounds to me like a dumb redneck opening her mouth. I've lived around dumb rednecks long enough to know what that sounds like

Anyway, I think it's great that Rush is using this to his advantage. Not many people would be able to turn that around, especially in such a way as to make Reid look like a fool.

Originally Posted by Quick Orange

That was my problem too. The fact that they went to Europe and started things out with "Just so you know, we’re on the good side with y’all. We do not want this war, this violence, and we’re ashamed that the President of the United States is from Texas."

That just sounds to me like a dumb redneck opening her mouth. I've lived around dumb rednecks long enough to know what that sounds like

Anyway, I think it's great that Rush is using this to his advantage. Not many people would be able to turn that around, especially in such a way as to make Reid look like a fool.

That was also my problem with the Dixie Chicks!
Lots of people talk bad about America, but to go to another country and speak to an audience that for the most part agree...That strikes me as cowardice, not guts! Rush, on the other hand said everything on the open airwaves where anybody could hear, and is standing his ground to boot !
By the way, the Dixie chicks apologized for their statements here in the USA!

I know they did, which I admire. My point is just that the Senate never sent their record label a letter asking to cancel their contract with the Dixie Chicks. It seems like very selective use of power which goes against free speech. I'll get off my soap box now. I never really meant to rant

Originally Posted by Quick Orange

I know they did, which I admire. My point is just that the Senate never sent their record label a letter asking to cancel their contract with the Dixie Chicks. It seems like very selective use of power which goes against free speech. I'll get off my soap box now. I never really meant to rant

I know what your point was!
My point was that they talked bad about America for their benefit and then apologized because that also served their purpose!

I guess I am a little cynical!

Originally Posted by JMS

My point was that they talked bad about America for their benefit and then apologized because that also served their purpose!

and how is that different from what Rush Limbaugh (the original topic of the thread) does? He talks bad about people who do not share his views and then he doesn't appologize because he doesn't have to and not apologizing serves his purpose of keeping his job as ultra-radical talk show host.

I don't see the logic how expressing disagreement with the decisions that the president of your country equates with talking bad about your country.

Or may be nobody ever expressed their disagreement with President Clinton during his low point?

If I'm being too provocative, please let me know - I don't have thin skin and I'm not offended by any of the postings in this thread, but may be somebody can take offense at mine. I'd just prefer a discussion instead of preaching to the choir type of thread, you know


Edit: I was posting at the same time as WB - wouldn't have posted this had I seen his post. I think his is way more interesting and better than mine and would prefer the discussion moves around what he said. Don't want to delete mine, though since it was already posted and somebody may be replying to it.

Originally Posted by JMS

I know what your point was!
My point was that they talked bad about America for their benefit and then apologized because that also served their purpose!

Sheesh, ok. Easy on the exclamations there. I took your previous post to mean something else.

Gugi, I believe the quote below explains my thinking on the subject.



Damn! every time I go for the exclamation point key I think of your post Quick Orange.

Originally Posted by JMS

That was also my problem with the Dixie Chicks!
Lots of people talk bad about America, but to go to another country and speak to an audience that for the most part agree...That strikes me as cowardice, not guts! Rush, on the other hand said everything on the open airwaves where anybody could hear, and is standing his ground to boot !
By the way, the Dixie chicks apologized for their statements here in the USA!