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    I think it depends on the anger. In the workplace, most anger is best left out of it, but some can be helpful. It can show your passion for whatever it is and prove that you take an interest in it. Of course, I don't mean losing your temper- that's bad news.

    This woman's fear was irrational and stupid. What seems odd to me is that someone who is comfortable in their job performance shouldn't be worried about losing their job, unless the boss just has it out for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quick Orange View Post
    This woman's fear was irrational and stupid. What seems odd to me is that someone who is comfortable in their job performance shouldn't be worried about losing their job, unless the boss just has it out for them.
    Or their boss has an eye for the bottom line only.

    There is nothing irrational about that fear. In today's corporate setting, being replaced by someone cheaper, younger, and less experienced is a VERY common thing.

    Not saying what she did was right, but being afraid of termination in her situation is very sensible. If I'd been in the same shoes I'd have started shopping my resume around just to be safe.

    Maybe it's different in other fields, I work in software which is especially cut throat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jockeys View Post
    Or their boss has an eye for the bottom line only.

    There is nothing irrational about that fear. In today's corporate setting, being replaced by someone cheaper, younger, and less experienced is a VERY common thing.

    Not saying what she did was right, but being afraid of termination in her situation is very sensible. If I'd been in the same shoes I'd have started shopping my resume around just to be safe.

    Maybe it's different in other fields, I work in software which is especially cut throat.
    For our discussion about anger and all it's variables we should assume that the story is accurate and the woman just assumed the worse! Even if the woman was provoked or otherwise had a legitimate reason to be concerned I still say she over reacted due to anger and resentment and I still hold that while anger exists, in the long run it is very harmful even if we believe it benefits us for the moment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    For our discussion about anger and all it's variables we should assume that the story is accurate and the woman just assumed the worse! Even if the woman was provoked or otherwise had a legitimate reason to be concerned I still say she over reacted due to anger and resentment and I still hold that while anger exists, in the long run it is very harmful even if we believe it benefits us for the moment!
    I agree that what she did was stupid. But being fearful for her job was not.

    As to your other statement, I do not think such a basic tenet of human existence (feeling angry) is harmful to us, or we would all have dropped dead by now.

    Anger is like gasoline, in many ways. Used in a controlled way, it is a fantastic fuel that may power your engine in a helpful way. Used carelessly, it can destroy you. (pardon the quote, my sensei is always saying things like that, a tad cheesy, but usually gets the point across)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jockeys View Post
    I agree that what she did was stupid. But being fearful for her job was not.

    As to your other statement, I do not think such a basic tenet of human existence (feeling angry) is harmful to us, or we would all have dropped dead by now.

    Anger is like gasoline, in many ways. Used in a controlled way, it is a fantastic fuel that may power your engine in a helpful way. Used carelessly, it can destroy you. (pardon the quote, my sensei is always saying things like that, a tad cheesy, but usually gets the point across)
    We are dropping like flies! Stress is way up there for causing many of our health maladies! If one could handle stress without frustration, resentment and anger stress could not have the health affects that it does on us. So while I agree that you can use anger to your benefit, in the long run it will do you in !~ It's kind of like eating your body a piece at a time as it initially sates your hunger , but...you get the picture! There has got to be a better motivator than anger!

    How many of you shave with a straight razor while angry...It doesn't work well, does it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    We are dropping like flies! Stress is way up there for causing many of our health maladies! If one could handle stress without frustration, resentment and anger stress could not have the health affects that it does on us. So while I agree that you can use anger to your benefit, in the long run it will do you in !~ It's kind of like eating your body a piece at a time as it initially sates your hunger , but...you get the picture! There has got to be a better motivator than anger!

    How many of you shave with a straight razor while angry...It doesn't work well, does it?
    I'm more worried about what beer and barbeque are doing to my body than I am stress.

    But, agree to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jockeys View Post
    I'm more worried about what beer and barbeque are doing to my body than I am stress.

    But, agree to disagree.

    I think if you are in sink with things and stress/anxiety/anger are not an issue, then you will tend to steer towards healthy foods and lifestyle. Also, (this is me just talking out of my a$$), but I think even unhealthy foods are processed/digested better with the absence of stress. Stress is some bad stuff -- up there with best of them. It seems to me that everyone is trying to live these sterilized lives --- dieting, being scared about every possible new disease or catastrophy ----- without thinking about all the stress that this causes. It seems we are wired to information --- too much information , so much stuff without substance -------all in good measure is the key.

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    I agree Mark. Whilst we may not have complete control over what makes us angry (although that's arguable), we certainly can (and do) have control over what we do with it.

    Anger as a motivator? Sure. But I've found, for me, a calm consideration of all the implications and repercussions of my actions is by far the most productive approach to pretty much anything. So nowadays I always wait until the anger has subsided before doing anything, generally.

    And, on a personal note, I've seen first-hand what unresolved and uncontrolled anger can do to a person over the course of their life. Not something to aspire to, let me assure you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    How many of you shave with a straight razor while angry...It doesn't work well, does it?
    Ah, I like that! I'm a teacher, and I do get angry in the classroom sometimes, but I find that anger is more of a hindrance than anything else in that setting. A teacher has to keep cool at all times, period.

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    If you want to see how how powerful and damaging anger can be, just watch how a little kid/child reacts in its presence, ---- it is an emotion that needs to be used wisely.
    But I still do think it has its place,

    Justin

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